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AUKUS and submarines

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Trumpster, playing the fool as a history revisionist once again!

From the Australian Government.

Following the defeat of the Kuomintang (KMT) forces by the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) in 1949, which established the People's Republic of China (PRC), with Beijing as its capital. The Australian Government continued to recognise the Republic of China (ROC) which had been established under Chiang Kai-shek on the island of Taiwan with a relocated capital at Taipei. This state existed until the establishment of diplomatic relations with the PRC in 1972. Australia's Joint Communiqué with the PRC recognised the Government of the PRC as China's sole legal government and acknowledged the position of the PRC that Taiwan was a province of the PRC.

Trumpster why are you such a nummy?
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 12 July 2025 3:19:26 PM
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Four trips to suck up to a Communist dictator; no trips to be at least courteous to the leader of the free world, our main ally, and our only saviour from the country Albanese can't get enough of apparently.

Pretending to follow in John Curtin’s footsteps, Albanese is more like Bert Evatt, who was totally naive about Communism, if he wasn't a Communist himself, as many thought at the time, and still think now.

Of Evatt, Rebecca Weisser writes that when he was alerted to the presence of Russian spies in his office, the fool wrote to the Soviet foreign minister to ask if it was true. The Russian denied it - naturally, and Parliament had a good laugh at Evatt's expense.

Albanese's attempt to remain neutral between the US and China is the work of a lunatic.

China has made its intentions in the region very clear. The lunatic doesn't believe them.
Posted by ttbn, Saturday, 12 July 2025 3:54:07 PM
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Paul and AC compete to see who can misunderstand the facts the most. Normally AC has that locked up but I think this time Paul has it by a nose.

Just for the sake of Paul's failed understanding, the Joint Communique between Paul's beloved CCP and Whitlam's Australia read as follows:

"Australia acknowledged the position of the PRC that Taiwan was a province of the PRC", but "neither supports nor opposes the PRC position on the matter".

Somehow the nuance here eludes dills like AC and Paul. Australia said then and continues to say that they recognise that the CCP claims the rights to Formosa but they, Australia, neither agrees nor disagrees with that claim. Its a policy that's been around for more than 50 years. I wonder how long it'll take for the dills to understand it.

Countries like Australia, the US, the UK, France etc deliberately adopt a policy of ambiguity concerning China. But the simple-minded don't understand ambiguity.
Posted by mhaze, Saturday, 12 July 2025 5:49:51 PM
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Dump the submarines, get coastal missile stations. Cheaper, better all round. Less hassle too considering that idiotic DEI.
Posted by Indyvidual, Saturday, 12 July 2025 6:19:07 PM
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Trumpster, are you saying the Australian Government Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade are getting it wrong when they say;

"Australia's Joint Communique with the PRC recognised the Government of the PRC as China's sole legal government and acknowledged the position of the PRC that Taiwan was a province of the PRC."

Maybe your're referring to your own dimwitted communique on the subject, or is it something you got from Dangerous Doctor Donald.
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 12 July 2025 7:45:32 PM
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First ttbn,
"Four trips to suck up to a Communist dictator; no trips to be at least courteous to the leader of the free world, our main ally, and our only saviour from the country Albanese can't get enough of apparently."
You don't seem to understand the bigger picture.
China is the rising global power and the USA is an empire in decline.
Maybe Albo understands something you don't.

Biden once commented to Putin, you're not a superpower anymore.
Putin responded, No but were still a big enough power to decide who the next superpower will be.

The US is haddit as is Europe.
The couldn't even stop the Houthis, couldn't even defend Israel, without having to call a ceasefite because Israel had ran out of interceptors, it's ports were destroyed and it was getting battered.
And you think they can take on China, or better still, Russia, China, Iran and North Korea as well?

Rebecca Weisser -> Danube Institute
http://www.spectator.com.au/author/rebecca-weisser/
Danube Institute -> Atlanticist National Security Policy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danube_Institute
Atlanticist -> NATO and US Hegemony, Russia hater.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlanticism

"China has made its intentions in the region very clear. The lunatic doesn't believe them."
What because they are building defeses when the West openly talks about it's pivot to Asia?
Or because they said a ship around our country and help live firing exercises in international waters?
Maybe it was because we were happy to provoke them first with surveillance aircraft inside the South China Sea and sailing warships up the Taiwan Strait?

Paul
"Trumpster why are you such a nummy?"
- He's about intelligent as Donald Trump himself. (Not very)
Good job making him look foolish.

Bezza and everyone.
This is why Garland Nixon is smarter than everyone here, myself included.
It's a long video but you might all learn something.

TRUMP'S UKRAINE POLICY HAS COLLAPSED, AS HAS HIS PRESIDENCY
http://www.youtube.com/live/oGRRj3BfjjE

mhaze,
I'll get to you soon enough...
Not sure I have a comment available yet.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 12 July 2025 7:50:04 PM
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