This is a rhetorical trick I’ve seen before, Armchair Critic:

When someone calls out Holocaust denial, pivot away by pointing to present-day Israeli actions - as if historical fact-checking is just a smokescreen to ignore Palestinian suffering.

That’s not how this works. You can hold Israel to account and challenge Holocaust distortion at the same time. In fact, the two issues should have nothing to do with each other.

But here’s the tell: if you weren’t dabbling in Holocaust minimisation, why the scramble to reframe the conversation as “look what Israel’s doing today”? You could’ve simply said, “Of course I believe the Holocaust happened.” But you didn’t.

Instead, you invoked David Cole - a known Holocaust revisionist - and repeated the “dancing Israelis” trope, both long associated with attempts to cast doubt on well-established history. That’s what prompted the response, not some conspiracy to protect Israel.

Ironically, if you genuinely want the world to care about atrocities in Gaza, leaning on people who deny other atrocities doesn’t strengthen your case - it sabotages it.

What you write is correct John. But that wasn't my point. AC relies on a series of outlandish YouTube and X bloggers who fed him all sorts of unverified and unverifiable gumph which he accepts without thought or question.

One of those 'sources' has been wrong so often that he had to change his online name to start a clean slate.... and continued to say the same bogus rubbish.

And the other that he relies on most often has written extensively about how the Holocaust was/is a hoax. Again all based on unverified and unverifiable gumph. Swimming pools at Auschwitz for God's sake!!

I've already identified a series of errors by the sources that AC has nonetheless accepted and refuses to reconsider. Things like claims that the 7/10 attacks by Hamas were justified because the Jewish settlers killed 1000 Palestinians in the prior year. Claims that were easily debunked by reference to figures from various UN agencies and Amnesty International.

I've been trying to make the point that if your sources are this bad that they spout assertions that make the Protocols of the Elders of Zion look sane, then you need new sources.

The sad part is that the Holocaust denial is the least egregious of these errors

Dear Critic,

«I'm not denying that Jews suffered under Hitler, but I question the extent of the claimed events, but I wasn't there so don't know the full truth of it.»

Wow! So you are writing to us from Gaza! ! !

We were told that there is no internet there, obviously we were wrong!

Understood, mhaze. Holocaust denial just really gets up my nose. I figured you had the broader misinformation angle covered pretty well.

Hi John Daysh,
"That’s not how this works. You can hold Israel to account and challenge Holocaust distortion at the same time. In fact, the two issues should have nothing to do with each other."
- That's exactly what I said mhaze's point was irrelevant.

The rhetorical trick was on mhazes part, he was the one who changed the subject to draw attention away from present events and link them to the past.

"and repeated the 'dancing Israelis' trope"
What has 9/11 got to do with anything, apart from being the event that started all these M/E wars that continue to today.
Who on earth is David Cole?

FYI, they were dancing Israeli's, do you question this?
'The White Van' ABC News 20/20 Preview on Urban Moving Systems and 9/11 Hi-Fivers (Dancing Israelis)
http://youtu.be/fOiCMMMeXE8

"leaning on people who deny other atrocities doesn’t strengthen your case - it sabotages it".
- Explain?

mhaze could've spent the last 21 months living and flying surveillance drones in Gaza and he'd still deny it, some people are just that way inclined when it comes to Israel and it's interests.

Hi mhaze,
"AC relies on a series of outlandish YouTube and X bloggers who fed him all sorts of unverified and unverifiable gumph which he accepts without thought or question."

- You get your news from the perpetrators.

"One of those 'sources' has been wrong so often that he had to change his online name to start a clean slate"
- He's so wrong that he was talking about the policy paper this entire thread speaks about a decade ago?
The one ttbn just 'found' and was enlightened with by George Christensen?
And he changed his 'online name' to his real name?
- You make me question if there's a cure for idiocy.

"Things like claims that the 7/10 attacks by Hamas were justified because the Jewish settlers killed 1000 Palestinians in the prior year."

International law recognizes the right of people under occupation to resist their oppressors, including through armed struggle, particularly when they are denied self-determination. This right is closely tied to the principle of self-determination, which is widely recognized in situations of colonial domination, foreign occupation, and regimes denying political participation, moron.

Palestinian's had every right under international law to take the fight to as many IDF as they wanted to, but I don't support attacks on civilians / non-combatants, reports of mass rapes, beheadings and babies in ovens were lies to sell the war to the gullible.
- And Israel has no problem murdering civillians, we're told they're the most moral army in the world. [Rolls eyes]

Auschwitz Swimming pool?
http://www.dreamstime.com/stock-image-auschwitz-poland-nazi-swimming-pool-image15439981

Hi Yuyutsu,
Why are you talking in riddles?