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Trump's Tariffs

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Trumpster,

Wrong again, you said; "What diseased US beef? Well none can be found" Not so;

"In May 2023, a case of atypical Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy (BSE), also known as mad cow disease, was detected in a beef cow at a slaughter plant in South Carolina."

"US animal health officials, have identified 6 BSE (mad cow disease) cases in cows in the United States. One was imported from Canada and is believed to have been infected there. The others were diagnosed with atypical BSE."
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 14 April 2025 4:38:27 PM
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Dear Paul 1405,

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Though significant government taxes can be derived from tariffs, they increase prices and reduce production, resulting in decreased revenue for commerce and industry. While most economists agree that tariffs have a negative impact on the economy, quantifying the full economic impact in advance is rife with incertitude and no simple task.

Trump’s tergiversation only complicates matters even more, adding to the confusion, clouding the future, and reducing confidence, constraining the economic actors to adopt a more prudent wait-and-see attitude.

The overall foreseeable result of the tariffs is nevertheless a diminution of GDP.

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Posted by Banjo Paterson, Tuesday, 15 April 2025 2:35:06 AM
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"The part where you claim you didn’t say what you clearly implied"

Oh I "implied" it. ie I didn't say it. Checkmate.
Posted by mhaze, Tuesday, 15 April 2025 7:11:03 AM
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I am assured this could never happen because, you know, Orange Man Bad and Tariffs don't work.... or something.

"Nvidia said it planned to produce an American-made supercomputer from a U.S. platform, and planned to produce as much as $500 billion in artificial-intelligence infrastructure over the next four years as part of a partnership with Foxconn and Taiwan Semiconductor."
Posted by mhaze, Tuesday, 15 April 2025 7:12:57 AM
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" was detected in a beef cow at a slaughter plant in South Carolina.""

Do grow up. They've found 6 cases in the last two decades. None of which entered the food chain. None of which entered the food chain.

If we banned products from every country that detected diseases in their country, we'd be under permanent lockdown. Not a single thing would come in from Chyna.

We shouldn't be banning product from countries that find problems BEFORE it enters the food chain. Its the countries that don't have those quarantine regimes (Wuhan Food Market anyone?) that ought to be banned.

Its increasingly clear that the ban on US beef was just a trade barrier to prop up the local industry which is why the US ws pissed off about it.

None of which entered the food chain.
Posted by mhaze, Tuesday, 15 April 2025 7:20:43 AM
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mhaze,

You’re right - you didn’t say it. You implied it. And now you’re trying to pretend that implication is irrelevant, as though the only ideas worth challenging are the ones spelled out in quotation marks.

That’s a false dichotomy - and a familiar retreat.

You used emotionally loaded language like “begging,” “scrambling,” and “racing,” then lined up a series of countries and companies supposedly responding to Trump’s pressure - including Australia’s beef policy. That’s not a coincidence. It’s narrative construction through implication.

So yes, you didn’t say it. You implied it.

And now, rather than defend the implication, you’re playing word games about how implication isn’t saying - as if that erases the original message you were pushing.

If that’s checkmate, it’s only because you’ve taken your own king off the board.
Posted by John Daysh, Tuesday, 15 April 2025 7:41:22 AM
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