Only a few can see that this is a short-term pain that will become long-term gain situation !
Let's just look who is scaremongering. The utterly useless investment market crowd ! What great projects are there presently & in the very recent past that have benefitted from "Investment" ?

mhaze,

So, now we’re back to “just reporting the numbers” and “just offering opinions.” Funny - that’s quite a change from the confident declarations and grand predictions just a few posts ago.

You floated dramatic outcomes (Apple repatriating jobs, Canada and Mexico relocating businesses, Australia rethinking quarantine laws), and now that you're being asked for sources, it's all "comprehension" and opinion disclaimers.

And the meme? Cute. But it's not an argument. It's just another way of deflecting from the fact that your narrative can't withstand a little scrutiny.

This was never about denying that countries are responding - it was about pointing out that their responses are to disruption, not diplomacy, and that your framing of it as a brilliant strategy collapses the moment you ask, “What was the plan, and where’s the evidence it worked?”

You can keep changing the tone and shifting the goalposts, but don’t confuse that with winning the argument.

----

Indyvidual,

It's easy to declare “short-term pain, long-term gain” - but harder to point to an actual plan behind the pain or measurable indicators of the supposed gain.

What we’re seeing isn’t strategic restructuring, it’s disruption without a roadmap - the brain fart of an impulsive, bad-tempered man-child who has no idea what he's doing. The market turmoil isn’t just some elite tantrum, it reflects real-world impacts on businesses, consumers, and governments trying to plan against volatility.

And the “utterly useless investment crowd”? That’s the same mechanism funding hospitals, infrastructure, and pension systems. When they panic, it's not just bankers who feel it - it's everyone with a retirement plan or a job tied to public spending.

If you’re going to defend the pain, it helps to show where the gain is - not just promise it’s somewhere over the horizon.

Trumpsters,

Your crazy folk hero The Dangerous Doctor Donald, has been shown to be a complete economic idiot! The 90 day nonsense demonstrates what a dangerous fool this bloke is! YOU are the ones suffering from "Trump Delusional Syndrome", delusional as you all are.

GOOD ON CHINA, for standing up to the economic idiot in the Whitehouse, he should be in the Nuthouse!

Pretty funny JD.

The US manufacturing industry has been systematically gutted over the past quarter century with the resultant impoverishment of millions of blue collar workers. Trump's tariff policies and America First policies are designed to begin the process of rectifying these disasters. Yet here's silly old JD asserting that, since these decades old problems haven't been resolved in a few weeks, Trump's policies are an utter failure. Laughable.

“just reporting the numbers”

Yes JD, I get that you'd prefer the numbers weren't reported since they invalidate your assertions. Facts tend to do that. Bummer eh!
BTW its now said the number of countries who are begging the Washington to begin negotiations on trade has increased to 83.

But Chyna is hanging in there and Paul is thrilled with that.

____________________________________________________________________

Also slightly OT.... US March inflation figures are out....2.4% which is lowest since the lockdown induced crash. Core inflation below 3%. Chalmers looks on with envy.

mhaze,

I never said Trump’s policies had “utterly failed” - I said that the guy is a failure on every level (but that doesn't mean he can't accidentally succeed.)

What I DID do is point out that you were calling chaos strategy, declaring victory before outcomes exist, and refusing to acknowledge the glaring lack of planning behind it all.

You keep pretending critics expect instant results. They don’t. They expect a plan, prepared infrastructure, and measurable indicators that what’s happening is more than disruption dressed up as genius.

You floated bold claims: mass job repatriation, business relocations, global trade realignments. When asked for evidence, it all melted into “just opinions.” That’s not strength - it’s storytelling.

And now we’re up to 83 countries “begging”? Incredible how the number keeps climbing, yet there’s still no public list, no press releases, no documentation - just internal spin and repetition.

As for inflation - yes, Trump has claimed credit for bringing it down, but the policies you’re praising (especially tariffs) tend to increase prices in the short term. If you want to argue 2.4% inflation proves the success of his economic strategy, you’ll need to show the connection - not just toss in a good number and hope it sticks emotionally to everything else.

If Trump wants credit for addressing deindustrialisation, he needs more than slogans, stunts, and fan fiction. Until then, loud cheerleading doesn’t become smart policy just because it echoes well.

"but that doesn't mean he can't accidentally succeed."

Like I said, for the TDS crowd everything that happens that can be represented as bad is entirely due to Trump and anything good that happens is mere luck. And they think they're being logical and adult.

"You keep pretending critics expect instant results. "
Not critics.. just you. You're the one calling for evidence that jobs were returning.

" it all melted into “just opinions.” "

No. Just my opining that a prudent Australian government would be re-examining its biosecurity policies as regards US beef. Sorry that went over your head. Was it the word 'prudent' that confused you?