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Trump's Tariffs

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Trumps policies come from the Heritage Foundation Project 2025
http://www.project2025.org/policy/
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 17 April 2025 3:57:40 PM
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mhaze,

Serves you right for paying any attention to strawmen. Haven’t you seen The Wizard of Oz?

As for the article: yes, I know how excited you get over big numbers - to the point where you'll even strip them of any context just to make them sound bigger.

But when you dig past the headline, most of the investment it cites comes from companies like Nvidia, TSMC, and Foxconn - all of which are driven by global supply chain restructuring, Taiwan tensions, and semiconductor incentives tied to the CHIPS Act.

That’s not the result of Trump’s tariffs - that’s the private sector hedging against risk and capitalising on long-term trends. And ironically, even your source admits companies are shifting operations to avoid tariffs. That’s not economic strength - that’s working around policy volatility.

If Trump wants to take credit for everything built on US soil, should we also credit him for the instability that made those “adjustments” necessary in the first place?
Posted by John Daysh, Thursday, 17 April 2025 5:22:23 PM
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Trumpster, you are so good at moving the goal posts, they are no longer in the foot oval, you're moved them out into the car park!

"So Paul, if you're gunna fret about the BSE in a few American cows are you fretting about all the diseases in the Aussie cows?"

Chalk and cheese, our cattle are free of deadly Mad Cow Disease, unlike America where it has been found, (you claimed it hadn't been found there, lie) AND with our strict bio security measures our cattle remain free of BSE. Why would we want to import American beef, we produce more than enough to meet local demand, and in fact beef is a big export product for Australia.

BTW, your folk hero The Orange Man can't enter Australia, strict bio security rules and all that, Mad Trump Disease. Its already been detected in several far right nut jobs here, Mini-Me Trump that's The Dud, he tries to hide it, but he's infected, Fat Clive defiantly has it, as does The Lovely Pauline. Your posts indicate you need testing asap as well.
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 18 April 2025 6:15:22 AM
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"If Trump wants to take credit for everything built on US soil, should we also credit him for the instability that made those “adjustments” necessary in the first place?"

Yes there is 'instability'....and its glorious.

Trump is rending asunder a global trade system designed to advantage the US financial sector and foreign investors in low wage countries to the detriment of the US working and middle classes. And that can't be done 'gently'. It has to be torn down and that necessarily means some disruption. All revolutions cause disruption. Some understand that. Others sit on the sidelines fretting about 'stability'.
Posted by mhaze, Friday, 18 April 2025 6:51:10 AM
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Ah yes, mhaze - it’s not a mess, it’s a revolution. It's not a bug, it's a feature!

You’re romanticising instability as a kind of noble upheaval - as if chaos is a virtue so long as it’s wrapped in working-class branding. But tearing something down isn’t strategy unless you know what’s being built in its place - and Trump hasn’t offered a vision. Just slogans, tariffs, and reaction.

Yes, all change causes disruption - but the goal of smart policy is to minimise unnecessary damage, not glorify it. Otherwise you’re just cheering on the wrecking ball and hoping someone else figures out the blueprint later.

And it’s not just “financial elites” who suffer when systems break down - it’s farmers, exporters, consumers, and yes, the working class. The people you claim this revolution is for are often the first to pay the price.

Calling that “glorious” doesn’t make it true. It just reveals who’s watching the fireworks, and who’s standing under them. Because at this point, you’re not describing a policy shift - you’re describing a belief system. One where anything that hurts must be helping, and anything chaotic must be part of the plan.

That’s not analysis. That’s faith. And faith in a wrecking ball isn’t strategy - it’s just a commitment to cheering, no matter what gets flattened.
Posted by John Daysh, Friday, 18 April 2025 9:08:31 AM
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Trumpster,

Our hearts should bleed for the poor Americans, with the average Yank rated only 8th in the world on the living standard index. These poor chaps with less than 5% of the worlds population consume over 25% of the worlds resources, the poor dears, such injustice it should be 100%. Trump has imposed tariffs on West African nations, you know the ones, the countries that America took slaves from to 'Make America Great' in the first place.
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 18 April 2025 9:15:29 AM
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