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Trump runs wild and trips over domestic inflation and disinformation about Ukraine

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"This war is going nowhere."
That's not exactly true, the Russians are advancing slowly, the Ukrainians war is going backwards, they can't count on US support under Trump, he doesn't want a bar to do with it. He's also signaled a willingness to give Russia everything it wanted at the start of the war. No NATO, No return of territories, No US boots on the ground and weapons shipments are those committed by Biden and are slowing.
The Ukrainians have no air defense, they lack manpower and the ones who are left are poorly trained, many deserting or surrendering.

As for Kursk, that could be over in a matter of weeks
http://youtu.be/8fWbJtwlpzs?t=573

"Russia is no longer a threat to Europe despite what the warmongers say."
- Russia was never a threat to Europe, unless Europe themselves became a threat to Russia, Putin was never interested in going there in the first place, that would result in nuclear war. But once the Ukrainian military collapses, theoretically Russia could go further, because NATO would be flat out putting 50,000 troops together.

"Its army has been shown to be a paper tiger."
Russia has overcome everything the collective West could throw at it, and will end the war much stronger militarily than when the war began.

http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/10/20/7480538/
"General Christopher Cavoli, Supreme Allied Commander Europe, believes that regardless of how the war in Ukraine ends, the Russian army will be stronger than it is now."

Poland, Hungary, Romania
Russia would be more likely to work out a deal that would see them reclaim their historical territories. I can't see Orban going to war with Putin. 'there's some doubt they'd actually still work' [nukes]
(You listening to desperate people with high hopes that are closer to fantasy mhaze, Russia modernised it's nuclear arsenal)
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 22 February 2025 4:26:53 PM
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"Sure Putin has nukes but given what we've seen, there's some doubt they'd actually still work."

Putin could destroy concentrations of NATO forces with conventional weapons (Oreshnik) in 10 minutes flat if he wanted to, if he thought they were a threat, but that would've likely forced a nuclear response under Biden, (They were claiming they could win a nuclear war) Washington would've had to decide if taking out a Russian city would be worth losing a US city, but they would've probably had to respond to aggression against Europe and NATO.
- The outcome wouldn't be pretty.

Nuclear War Expert: 72 Minutes To Wipe Out 60% Of Humans, In The Hands Of 1 Person!
http://youtu.be/asmaLnhaFiY

EU nations won't send troops into Ukraine without US security guarantees, (They wont get them from Trump) they're trying to lay a tripwire for US involvement, and that's why Macron and Starmer went to Washington and are talking about peacekeepers.

But this is essentially freezing the conflict to fight another day, Russia won't accept this outcome.

Trump has already passed off the leadership of Ukraine Contact Group to France, signalling that it's Europes problem now.
US is even discussing removing Russian sanctions, which would be smart on their part considering BRICS dedollarisation.
Musk is talking about working with Russia on space programs.

Russia won't take western Ukraine, it's more trouble than it's worth being an occupying power, and it gives justification to all the lies told by the Biden administration and their USAID paid media groups.
At best Russia will go to the Dnieper, maybe take Kherson City (which is already considered part of the Russian Federation) and maybe take Odessa and link up with Transnistra.

Putin wants peace, never wanted this war to begin with, he wants a new security framework and normalisation of relations.
This was just a few weeks prior to the invasion:
http://edam.org.tr/en/blog/russia-proposes-a-new-security-architecture-in-europe-and-beyond

Some estimates place Ukrainian KIA at over a million already.
Russia, somewhere between 150-200K

Both wars were completely avoidable, and all the loss of life pointless.
No NATO for Ukraine, and Israel should just state it's borders.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 22 February 2025 7:25:12 PM
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"We see people like Foxy and AC whine at the drop of a hat at the supposed death toll in Gaza of 40000 during a year's fighting. Well credible estimates say that many die or are maimed on the Russian steppes each MONTH. Yet here they are cheering for more death and destruction. Hypocrites."

- Don't put words into my mouth thanks mhaze.
You're just trying to play down Israeli atrocities by pointing out the loss of life in Ukraine is much greater.

Shame on you for downplaying the murder of women and kids.

But even Foxys article from Zelenska stated "I want to talk about each of the 599 children killed by Russia in the past three years so that they do not become statistics."
Israel probably killed that many kids every day.

One war has nothing to do with the other, however Zelensky and Netanyahu were providing support to each other.
Hay'at Tahrir al-Sham received training and weapons from Ukraine.
So in some ways the Ukrainian war helped turn Syria into the wild west run by Jihadis.

(I supported Assad, I don't support the U.S. and Israels wars and regime changes)
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 22 February 2025 7:37:13 PM
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Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 22 February 2025 10:06:21 PM
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Trumpster,

You say; "Why should America have to defend Ukraine? Its the other side of the world with no US vital interests at stake"

Already Trump has demanded $860 billion from Ukraine in war reparations. AND as usual America is demanding a cut of the action when it comes to divvying up Ukrainian natural resources. When i comes to money, America always has a vital interest.
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 23 February 2025 4:41:12 AM
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‘I’ve had it’: Trump admits Russia attacked Ukraine as he blames Zelensky, Biden
http://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/i-ve-had-it-trump-admits-russia-attacked-ukraine-as-he-blames-zelensky-biden-20250222-p5le8m.html

>>“I’ve been watching this man for years now … I’ve been watching him negotiate with no cards, he has no cards, and you just get sick of it. And I’ve had it,” Trump told Fox News Radio.

“Then he complains that he’s not at a meeting. Well, he’s been at meetings for three years and nothing got done. So I don’t think he’s very important [sic] to be at meetings, to be honest with you.”

Trump was referring to talks between US and Russia in Saudi Arabia last week to which Ukraine was not invited.<<

>>...Trump went on to say Putin wanted to make a deal, “and he doesn’t have to make a deal because if he wanted, he’d get the whole country”.<<

- Truth of the matter is that it was never Zelensky that was using the United States, It was the United States that was using Zelensky.

You have to go back to the early days of the war to understand what happened, and you have to sift through the mistruths, because what actually happened was not the way the media reported the events at the time.

When Russia first started the invasion, it sent 40,000 troops into KIev. It was not a plan to 'take' Kiev as the media reported at the time. It was to force Ukraine to the negotiating table, which happened. A deal had been struck and Russia's military withdrew from Kiev as part of that deal.

At this point Boris Johnson flew into Ukraine (Either at Bidens request, or with his support) to put an end to that deal, to convince Zelensky to keep fighting. After that if you all remember we heard Biden now openly state "We're with Ukraine for as long as it takes".

Former US Ambassador to Ukraine Michael McFaul, (Under Biden) is losing his mind at Trumps willingness to make peace.

Trump is offering Putin concessions and undermining Ukraine, says former U.S. ambassador to Russia
http://youtu.be/VQxqFLHHoJk
Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 23 February 2025 7:20:35 AM
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