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Trump runs wild and trips over domestic inflation and disinformation about Ukraine

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Trump’s electoral promise was to settle the Russia-Ukraine war in 24 hours. After he won the election, that became 100 days.

It’s been 108 days since the election, and he has still not settled it. Maybe it will be on the twelfth of never—and that’s a long, long time !

Why should he get involved anyway ?

Because as a signatory of the Budapest Memorandum in 1994, the US gave its assurance that “the independence and sovereignty of the [then] existing borders of Ukraine would be respected”. Russia and the UK signed on to that enthusiastically as well.

Those assurances played a key role in persuading the Ukrainian government in Kyiv to give up what amounted to the world’s third-largest nuclear arsenal, consisting of some 1,900 strategic nuclear warheads following the dissolution of the Soviet Union on Christmas Day 1991.

However, a memorandum is just a moral engagement. It does not have force of law. If it were a treaty it would be enforceable under international law.

So, Trump, the trickster, switched sides and endorsed Putin’s claims following the Riyadh meeting in Saudi Arabia between the US and Russian diplomats – to which Ukraine was not invited.

When Zelensky complained, Trump retorted :

• that Zelznsky should have never started the war – [false: Putin started it]

• that Zelensky was a dictator with only a 4% approval rate – [false: it was a 58% approval rate]

• that the US had given $350 billion to Ukraine – [false: US gave $67 billion in weapons & $31.5 billion in budget support]

That seems to indicate that Putin wants Zelensky replaced by somebody whom Putin approves personally.

Trump’s mounting nervousness and frustration forebode the inextricable “mission impossible” he has now brought upon himself – unless, of course, Putin reciprocates and accepts to be replaced by somebody who has the personal approval of Zelensky.

Not likely ?

Well, you never know, maybe tricky old Trump has something else up his sleeve.

Hopefully, he'll save the last dance for Ukraine.

This is what Trump has us dancing to :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVZEQ-44K_Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOCi107C-MQ

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Posted by Banjo Paterson, Saturday, 22 February 2025 4:51:14 AM
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NATO is advised by its intelligence services that Putin will be ready in six months to take on western Europe.
Posted by ttbn, Saturday, 22 February 2025 6:25:26 AM
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Democrats are again turning to lawfare in their surly attempts to curtail Trump, who doesn’t care what other people think, says what he means, and does what he says.

The Democrats and their supporters simply cannot abide honesty and integrity. They are just like Albanese Labor. Injunctions against a man who won a landslide fairly and squarely are rife. To hell with democracy and what the people want is the Leftist way of doing things. If they can't govern, they do what they can to make a country ungovernable for anyone else. They enlist shameless, probably corrupt judges, to help them do it.

Judges who “troll” the public, and dare a democratically elected to reverse their interfering rulings.

In hick countries like Australia, the hick politicians back down: judges and the extreme Left win. Not in Trumpville they don't. Trump doesn't like woke-infected judges.
Posted by ttbn, Saturday, 22 February 2025 7:06:04 AM
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While Australian Prime Ministers, the creatures of their party power brokers, are constrained by the sludge of the Canberra swamp – Trump has the necessary independence to enforce the democratic will of the people on the unwilling political class.
Posted by ttbn, Saturday, 22 February 2025 7:08:14 AM
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I can't understand how those posters who so recently
used accusations of Marxism and communism at -
who they perceived to be "Left-Wingers". It now appears
they strongly support a US president who's made
it clear that he'd rather deal with Moscow than Kyiv
when it comes to finding a way to end the conflict
that Russia 's invasion started.

There's more at:

http://abc.net.au/news/205-02-20/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-analysis-after-zwlwnskyy--spray/104953186
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 22 February 2025 9:20:16 AM
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http://x.com/elonmusk/status/1893056636131909803

"Every bleeding-heart liberal I talk to about the Russia-Ukraine war wants to keep feeding bodies into the meat grinder forever.

They have no plan for success.

Superficial empathy, not real empathy."

http://x.com/GabeZZOZZ/status/1892913643978649943
Zelensky wasn’t joking, there’s literally no air defense in Kiev.

Trump: Russia holds ‘the cards’ in Ukraine peace talks
http://www.politico.eu/article/donald-trump-russia-have-cards-peace-negotiations/

Trump Gave Europe Three Weeks to Sign Off on Ukraine 'Surrender': MEP
http://www.newsweek.com/trump-europe-troops-ukraine-peace-deal-2033823
In a post on X, formerly Twitter, Finland's Mika Aaltola of the European People's Party claimed that the U.S. "has given us three weeks to agree on terms for Ukraine's surrender," referring to a proposed peace deal aimed at ending the war.

"If we don't, the United States will withdraw from Europe," Aaltola added.

What I don't understand Foxy, is why you haven't sent your own children to fight the Russians.
You seem to think everyone else should send their kids, why not send your own if you care so much?
If you're not willing to do that, then your just a hypocrite who wants other people to die for what YOU think is right.

Maybe you should go fight them hey?

Face facts, Russia won the war.

http://x.com/SMO_VZ/status/1892662674179215814
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 22 February 2025 9:42:34 AM
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