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Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 6 March 2025 11:49:42 PM
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This brief extract from a Washington Monthly article published on the 24th of February 2025 rings as a eulogy of the great America buried by Trump : . « Donald Trump and the End of American Global Leadership » . We prided ourselves on being fair, decent, truthful, and reliable—and generally tried to act that way in the world, including by fighting for the freedom of others and brokering peace in far-flung disputes. We shared our intelligence with other countries; we promoted their development. People from more cynical places sometimes found us naďve, but we instilled respect and admiration, and other nations aspired to be like us, free and democratic. We weren’t selfless—far from it. But we didn’t see international relations as a zero-sum game. Our allies’ strength didn’t diminish us—and sometimes, we won just because they did. If Trump believes in any of that, he has yet to show it. His temperament is nothing like the small-town American ideal, which is not only upright but sunny and hopeful, including about other people. He’s so eager to reach a deal with Russia that he doesn’t seem to care if it’s fair. His lies about Ukraine—who started the war, how much the U.S. has spent to support Kyiv, and Zelensky’s popularity, all of it borrowed directly from Kremlin propaganda—make a mockery of the truth and our reputation as an honest broker. (In fact, European nations have contributed $139 billion to the war effort, while the U.S. kicked in $120 billion, not $350 billion, as Trump claims. And Zelensky is seen favourably by 57 percent of Ukrainians, not 4 percent, as Trump has it.) In just a few short weeks, Trump has turned what was once the indispensable nation into another squabbling player in a chaotic world sure to grow even more dangerous and disorderly without American leadership. Europe will struggle to replace us but is unlikely to fill the void as our adversaries take advantage of the vacuum. R.I.P. America Lest we forget http://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/relatedvideo?q=the%20last%20post%20bugle&mid=2280468843C71F3B1A072280468843C71F3B1A07&ajaxhist=0 Here is the full article : http://washingtonmonthly.com/2025/02/24/donald-trump-and-the-end-of-american-global-leadership/ . Posted by Banjo Paterson, Friday, 7 March 2025 1:35:53 AM
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Coming out of DC the Washington Monthly is inevitably left leaning - how could it be otherwise. Now that doesn't make its view automatically wrong but it ought to be held in back of mind while reading its output.
Obama once said "Elections have consequences". Well America had an election and it has consequences. Americans voted for America First. They don't want to expend money and lives on saving the world from itself. They don't want to be the world's policeman any longer. The left have been claiming from day one that Trump is a warmonger, and now complain that he wants peace. We see this all the time from the left - the notion that after electoral victory the winner should adopt the policies of the loser - if the loser is the left. I'll guarantee that if the Libs win the upcoming election we'll see articles in (y)our ABC explaining how its now imperative that the Libs adopt the ALP's policies. If the left and the Europeans want to continue to fight this war, let them do it. But do it without US money and US lives. The outcome in Ukraine has no consequences for the US (just as it has no consequences for Australia) and Trump will therefore extract his country from the ill-considered policy of going all in on defeating Putin. The world changed on the election of Trump although that was merely a symptom of the change rather than a cause. The US elite who have been happy to throw money and US lives (although not those of their own kin) at every perceived problem around the world, are no longer in power. The MAGA working/middle class finally found their voice and their spokesman and they are now the ruling force in DC. Their interests, not those of people sipping chardonnay on the left bank of the Seine, are what governs America's priorities. It will take a long time and not a few heartaches for many to come to realise the new reality. Posted by mhaze, Friday, 7 March 2025 8:55:50 AM
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"There's only 3 superpowers in the world mhaze."
No. there are two. Russia is a third world country with nukes. That doesn't make them a superpower. When the US took on Iraq in 1991 it was fighting the 4th biggest army on the planet. It defeated that army in 3 days. And it had to fight on the other side of the planet. That's a superpower. Russia can't even defeat a flung-together force in 3 years while fighting on its own borders and it turns out struggles to defend those borders. That's a nation in decline. Its true that Ukraine has benefited from western supplies but that doesn't mean squat and never forget that the Russian thrust on Kiev in the opening week of the war was thoroughly defeated long before western supplies arrived. When I point out the diabolical effect the loss of Russia's youth in this stupid war has on Russian demographics, you change the subject to Ukraine. Yep its had a diabolic effect on them as well, but just because it as bad on Kiev and it is on Moscow, doesn't change my point. Being that Russia, already facing demographic armageddon in the next few decades, accelerated even further down that hill by frittering away the cream of its youth. And that further shows that Russia is no longer a threat to Europe. "Poland got their asses handed to them every other time, and they will get their asses handed to them again." Oh well, if you say so. BTW, just to help your understanding of history, for much of the middle ages Poland was the major power in the central Europe and when they were defeated in the 20th century, it was by the Germans, not the Soviets. But facts...meh! Posted by mhaze, Friday, 7 March 2025 9:19:18 AM
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"More western BS o try and drive a wedge, because USA knows it can't beat them both together you moron."
I notice you get very emotional every time I point out that Russia/China relations aren't all fairy dust and roses. Just hoping your beloved Russian empire will continue into perpetuity isn't really all that smart. Again, Russia is in severe decline. The consequences of that decline were seen in 1991 when it lost a sizable part of its empire. More is to come as avaricious neighbours see its weakness which is fully on display in the DonBass. Official Chinese maps still show places like Vladivostok and Baikal with their Chinese names. China hasn't given up on reversing the Treaty of Aigun and the Convention of Peking. Its just that, at the moment, its to their advantage to keep Russia as a vassal state. But history shows that as empires fall into decline, their neighbours who were almost always badly treated when the empire was strong, seek to recover territory, resources and a little revenge. Russia humiliated China in the 1860s. Retribution will come. China has a long memory. A Russia in accelerating decline won't be able to resist these neighbours. They can barely resist Ukraine now...who knows what'll be like in a decade or two. Seeking the protection of others who don't have territorial claims against it might be the only way Russia survives into the future Posted by mhaze, Friday, 7 March 2025 9:34:39 AM
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Hi Banjo,
Your article by Tamar Jacoby... - Definitely a well-paid swamp creature that one. And not an unbiased source of info either: She's director of the New Ukraine Project over at the Progressive Policy Institute. History includes Manhattan Institute for Policy Research, Hudson Institute Past Hudson Institute honorees include Nikki Haley, Paul Ryan, Mike Pence, Mike Pompeo, Ronald Reagan, Henry Kissinger, Rupert Murdoch, Dick Cheney, Joseph Lieberman, Benjamin Netanyahu, David Petraeus, and Shinzo Abe. Hudson Institute is funded by donations from individuals, foundations, and corporations. Notable funders of the Institute include the Silicon Valley Community Foundation, the Sarah Scaife Foundation, and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. she served on the advisory board of the National Endowment for the Humanities, founded ImmigrationWorks USA and Opportunity America in 2014. Definite pig, snout and (deepstate) trough that one. With a nice woke haircut to boot. If you want to know about Russiagate and all the corruption that began prior to Trumps 2016 electoral win, watch this. - And if you don't know it, then you don't have the backstory to even discuss it or (no offense) parrot the bs lying talking points related to Meuller and all the rest of the corrupt gang. - Helping to ruin America. Watch. Learn. SETH RICH? - KASH PATEL VS THE FBI - WITH RAY MCGOVERN http://www.youtube.com/live/Qc5FmxnPFN4 Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 7 March 2025 9:50:32 AM
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- Trump genuinely wants peace it seems.
"They tried to make a comeback and have lost that as well."
- You're a USAID propaganda chump.
Europe will need to work out how to live with a weakened and grumbling Russia. But its no longer the US's problem.
- They're not weakened. Christopher Kavoli commander of United States European Command and Supreme Allied Commander Europe openly stated Russia will end this war stronger than they began.
"Unless the Russian army had the backing of the USA. Just saying."
- More western BS o try and drive a wedge, because USA knows it can't beat them both together you moron.
>>Back in September 2022 (note 2022) I wrote..."In the longer term, it is now apparent that NATO is no longer needed. The next Republican leader is likely to begin the process of pulling the US out of Europe."<<
Good job. But now I'll up your ante and point out that European nation states themselves will start to push back against the EU, because they are increasingly moving to the right and becoming more nationalist and sick of Brussels telling them how to run their own countries, and EU supports this war because expanding the EU increases their ability to centralise their power and project it onto the EU nation sates.
EU is not a country.