Hi Nathan,

The tragedy of the two nurses was that they let their hatred get the better of their humanity. I am sorry that your understanding of medical ethics is even more slap dash than the police check of medical records to determine whether anyone was harmed.

Did you know that like-minded people to you and Foxy thought they would prove a stitch up with the unedited version, but apparently it was more damning?

No place for anyone in health with that mindset regardless of their ability. Sad

"Many Lithuanians living in Australia must be working overtime trying to distance themselves from the likes of you ! "

In the dark days of 1941/2, the Holocaust was launched in most eastern European countries as they were overrun by the Wehrmacht's Barbarossa campaign. In many of those countries, local partisans sided with the Nazis on the basis that they were freeing them from the Soviet yoke. Many, already holding antisemitic view helped the Nazis 'deal' with their Jews.

Lithuania had around 220,000 Jews pre-war. By 1943 that had been reduced by 95%. This was the highest percentage loss of any eastern European nation. And the reason for that was the enthusiastic help the Lithuanians gave the Nazi occupation forces in rounding up the Jews and killing them.

Indeed German commanders commented upon the way Lithuanians militia worked often unsupervised to clear towns and villages of Jews. One commander observed that, even though his troops were reticent about killing Jewish women and children, the Lithuanian forces showed no such reticence. What's more, the Lithuanian pogrom against their local Jews was launched even before the German army arrived.

I suspects Foxy's antisemitism fits very neatly into the general views of the Lithuanian diaspora.

As mhaze says, freedom of speech has been eroded over the years. But it might not be known that freedom of speech has never been guaranteed in Australia; it is merely an “implied” right.

So we can safely say that these two Jew-haters do not have the right to say what they did. However, that means that the rest of us don't, either.

UPA Senator Ralph Babet intends to present a Bill to include the right of free speech in the Constitution. Ever the optimist!

mhaze

A good history lesson for the ignorant.

The same can be said about the Ukrainians some people are sympathising with currently. They actually supplied guards for the Nazi death camps. Putin still calls them Nazis.

mhaze,

World War II produced tens of millions of victims.
Some were combatans, some civilian casualties of the war.
Others were victims of genocide planned by the warring
powers - the Nazis and the Bolsheviks.

Both the Nazis and the Communists had committted
unheard of cruelties.

Concentration camps on both sides of the front - operated
at a high pitch prior to and and during the war years.

While the USSR policy of mass murder preceded that of
Nazi Germany, most notably with the artificial Ukrainian
famine of 1932-33, the wholesale destruction of the Russian
peasantry, and later of the peasantry and intelligensia in
the occupied territories as well.

The Nazis soon matched Soviet terror with their wholesale
slaughter of Jews, and others, in equal numbers, if not
proportions of their populations. As stated in "The New KGB".

In accomplishing their mutual goals , the dictators used
their respective political parties. the Communist Party of
the USSR and the Nationalist Socialist Workers'Party, to rid
their societies of all political opposition.

Each party had its enforcers. the communists -their NKVD
(now KGB) and the Nazis - the Gestapo.

Both parties used informers,collaborators, and assistants
from among the very people they were
out to enslave or destroy.

Some asisted voluntarily, while others assisted out of fear
or weakness.

There were also, of course, numerous courageous men and women
who refused to participate in the subjugation and destruction
of the targeted groups and individuals. There were Christians
who interceded with their lives and those of their familes to
save Jews. And there were Jews who did the same.

These heroes embody human nobility in its highest form and
stand out as beacons in the otherwise bleak history of World
War II.

cont'd ...

mhaze,

Amongst the evil minions of the Gestapo and the NKVD
(now KGB)- were Christians, and Jews, and Germans,
and Russians, members of all nations (including the
British) caught in the merciless war.

No nation, no faith, no race, was free of collaborators
or cowards. No group was spared from killers and traitors
in their midst.

Some of these villains perished. some were captured and
were punished.for the most part shortly aftr the conclusion
of the war. Others accepted retribution. dying after, as did
Stalin and Hitler - the evil architects themselves - without
having been brought to justice.

As I stated early on this forum - while half of the criminals
the Nazis,
have been purseud all over the world, the other half the the
communist criminal;s sat as judges in Nuremberg, and later were
given tacit permission to continue to expand their
draconian systems to raise torture, suppression, and murder
to a science. Which still persists to this day.

As for me and your accusation of antisemitism?

I have lived and worked all of my life and have mixed with
a wide variety of people of different cultures and religions.
I have not experienced or encountered any accusations of
antisemitism directed at me until I came across people
like you, on this forum.