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Sacked nurses a step too far in terms of free speech and comment

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Hi NahanJ

Most violent racists justify themselves with a narrative based on grievance and misplaced reciprocity. When I lived in London in the 1980s, the IRA murdered civilians by bombing shops and pubs. Some Brits blamed and hated all Irish people for it. My next-door-neighbour, who was from Limerick, was beaten up at our local Tube station because he had an Irish accent (the Limerick accent is a bit odd, bit definitely not Belfast – but that didn’t matter to his assailants). I don’t know whether he supported the IRA (through from our conversations, I think not). But he definitely did not deserve the beating.

It is racist to assume that someone from a particular religion, ethnicity or nationality is culpable because of things done by another person or organisation from the same religion, ethnicity or nationality. It is a criminal offence to murder, assault, or threaten someone because of their race or religion (or for any other reason).

The nurses in the video were vile, violent, racists. Thy were also under a legal and professional obligation to treat every patient they encounter with dignity and respect and to make their patients’ welfare their paramount concern. How can you possibly think that a Jewish patient presenting at a public hospital could be comfortable if one of these was their nurse?
Posted by Rhian, Monday, 17 February 2025 2:15:35 AM
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Another thing that is so childish and tiresome about people defending Islamic extremists in this country is their bleating about what we would say if “it was Jews threatening Muslims”.

There is no Jews versus Muslims here. There is no competition. And, as far as I'm aware, not one of the 100,000 Jews in Australia has ever threatened the 800,000 Muslims in the way that the two creatures in question have done.

Two creatures that the Muslim community has unreservedly condemned, by the way.

Saying ‘what about the Jews’ is just another exhibition of Jew-hatred. You don't see these apologists for extremism saying ‘what about the Christians’; ‘what about the Hindus’; ‘what about the Buddhists’.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 17 February 2025 8:09:25 AM
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All a bit suss.
Foxy,
They'd have been pumped off by now whilst the hospital burned down !
Posted by Indyvidual, Monday, 17 February 2025 9:18:44 AM
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Multicultural extremists behave worse in the West than they do in their homeland. They are coddled by politicians, activists, and the media who seem to think any failure of behaviour from migrant communities represents a failure of them specifically for preaching a political philosophy that doesn’t work.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 17 February 2025 9:22:24 AM
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No one is going to deny their ancestries in this country.
Nor should they. Especially when so many here are denied being
a "true" Aussie, by the "True Blue" pygmy brigade.

________________________________________________________________

Armchair Critic,

I have no wish to argue with you about Lithuania. History is
clear about Stalin's score in victims tortured, starved, and
murdered. Of creating panic and chaos and of producing
millions of bodies, of refugees, and homeless.

Of buiklding and expanding concentration camps. in which
millions of innocent victims would perish.

Terror was used to deal with their domestic opposition.

It's no wonder that those who were able fought back. Just
as Ukraine is doing today against Putin.

People will always continue to fight for their freedom. No
matter how long it may take.

BTW - I've tried to explain to you in the past. I am not
against the Russian people. My Gran was Russian. It's the
Soviet regime that I found problematic. Just as I am not
against Jewish people. It's the policies of the Israeli
government and - the actions of Hamas that I find troublesome.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 17 February 2025 10:29:15 AM
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I agree that this is, partially, a freedom of speech issue. But freedom of speech has been so eroded over the past 5 years, that it hardly seems to matter any longer.

Nonetheless, these people are free to spout their Jew hatred to their heart's content as far as I'm concerned. (Of course, people should also be free to spout their hatred of the Koran to their heart's content as well but we all know how that would end). What they don't have a right to do is assert that they have and/or will use their privileged government job to facilitate their hatred. Or more precisely, they do have that right but shouldn't expect to retain their government position.

Being sacked and deregistered was the right call and it should end there UNLESS it can be shown they indeed did act on their claims. ie that they actually caused harm to the object of their hate.

Sack 'em. Remove 'em. Find out why they were able to operate in the system while having these views. We know why, but it should be explored anyway.

If we had a policeman saying he targeted drivers who were women or teenagers or old men, no one would have the slightest compunction about throwing the book at him. Same here.

The only reason there is dispute is that there are many on our community whose antisemitism is such that they sympathise with these nurses rather than their victims.
Posted by mhaze, Monday, 17 February 2025 10:36:31 AM
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