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Trump’s Authoritarian Populist Politics

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Oh so you're not walking back your claim about GITMO and really do think Trump will use it to make money for a friend. You can't have it both ways.. Ditto your cherry-picking of polls.

Perhaps Aries is a devotee of Derrida's 'obscurantisme terroriste' ie writing that is so unfathomable that all possible interpretations can be attached to it, such that the author, aware of the fatuousness of the stated views, can claim to be right no matter what.

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More winning:
* Columbia is now recommended that all their citizens voluntarily return home
* Venezuela has released 6 of the hostage held by them
* Tariffs on Mexico, Canada and China will be instituted this week.
* The 51 traitorous signatories of the letter saying the Hunter Biden laptop was Russia disinformation having already had their security clearances revoked are now barred from entering any Federal building. That'll put a crimp in their lobbying careers.
* Hunter Biden can't work out why his artwork is no longer selling!! :)
* Some Europeans are now telling Denmark they had it coming given that they've spent the last 40 years bludging on the US on security matters. They spend less than 1.7% on defence.

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While searching through past posts looking for a link I'd posted a few years back, I came across this from February 2021.. "It is way more likely that he'll [Trump] be a presidential candidate in 2024 than Xiden, and that gives him plenty of time to start to weed out the rats in the ranks." Pretty chuffed to have been so prescient. (http://tiny.cc/80g8001).
Posted by mhaze, Saturday, 1 February 2025 3:59:03 PM
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Hi Aries54,

I've come across an interesting article that tells us:

"Trump won because he was a better candidate with a
better message".

There's still many who believe believe that both
his policies and approach
won't work and will probably do a lot of damage in the end.

But to millions of Americans, whether they admit it or not
Trump offered real hope. Many, looked upon
him as a protector. "Daddy's home".

The article tells us that Americans now have a choice.
Those who didn't support Trump we're told - they can
rage at Trump and his supporters. Or they can spend months
in arguments about whether he meets the criteria of a
fascist or they can properly try to understand
what happened to get him elected and then try to mount a
serious fightback.

There's more at:

http://theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/nov/09/we-can-rage-about-donald-trump-or-we-can-be-curious-about-why-he-appealed-to-so-many

We'll have to wait and see what Americans will eventually choose to do.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 1 February 2025 5:06:58 PM
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No Mhaze I don't play silly double speak games. I don't have the time, patience or inclination.

Hi Foxy

Thank you for that. I have a friend who worked as part of the committee for Kamala. He told us that the members of that particular committee received so many credible death threats that everyone on the committee was moved off shore and were forced to work remotely during the campaign. Yes, the mis-information and outright provocation etc. We could go on, but those blinded by his apparent genius fob it all off with their own delusions. At least I agree with some posters on this blog who say they elected him and there ain't nothing we can do. Except wait and hold our breath. Cheers for now.
Posted by Aries54, Saturday, 1 February 2025 5:41:11 PM
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Good Morning Aries54,

Trump remains the same politician he has always been:

http://abc.net.au/news/2025-02-01/donald-trump-washington-dc-plane-helicopter-crash-analysis/104884782

To a hammer everything is a nail.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 2 February 2025 6:54:57 AM
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Dear mhaze,

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You wrote :

1. « … No Macron, no Scholz, no Trudeau »
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So far as I can judge, mhaze, Macron, Scholz and Trudeau are not beacons of populism, authoritarianism, illiberalism and imperialism.

That said, I must admit that while I know Macron reasonably well, that’s not the case for the other two. So, if you could enlighten me a little on Scholz and Trudeau I’m more than willing to revise my judgment.

You seem to regret that I did not cite any leftists as examples. Perhaps I could have cited Hugo Chavez in Venezuela and Claudia Sheinbaum in Mexico. You mentioned Putin and Xi in one of your previous posts, but as I pointed out, it's called tyranny when all powers belong to one person, which it is with them.
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2. « But Trump, at the moment, is an agent of unity for the US »
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On condition that any such “unity”, if it exists, is the sole result of people exercising their own free will without outside influence, mhaze, that’s fine. But your caveat “at the moment” raises serious doubt. It could be a fleeting moment.

Perhaps it has already passed – if, indeed, it ever existed !

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Posted by Banjo Paterson, Sunday, 2 February 2025 10:22:44 AM
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" He told us that the members of that particular committee received so many credible death threats that everyone on the committee was moved off shore and were forced to work remotely during the campaign. "

Ahem.... I seem to recall that someone on the Republican side actually, rather than imagined, survived two assassination attempts. Now who was that?

And rather than moving people offshore, operatives from the British Labour Party were moved onshore to help Harris's disastrous campaign.

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"So far as I can judge, mhaze, Macron, Scholz and Trudeau are not beacons of populism, authoritarianism, illiberalism and imperialism."

That was rather my point. They no more fit those descriptors than does Trump given that you haven't bothered to show how he does. But if you decided to twist the meanings of those words to fit Trump, that same twisting would also be used to fit these others as well.

Again Banjo, just to summarise, you picked a bunch of derogatory words, said they applied to Trump without showing how and have ever since demurred to show how.

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"is the sole result of people exercising their own free will without outside influence, mhaze, that’s fine. "

Well I'm pretty sure the people I mentioned did indeed join MAGA and the revolution of their own free will. Just as a host of others have done over the past twelve months.

" It could be a fleeting moment."

You hope.

It won't be permanent. These golden ages never are. But a decade will be enough to change the course of US and world history.

And the movement is expanding. A march in Britain in support of free-speech had the crowd dancing to YMCA which you might recall is the MAGA theme song.
Posted by mhaze, Sunday, 2 February 2025 6:00:12 PM
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