JJ Vance is also a politician who relishes being interviewed by Leftists media activists and Leftist hecklers.

We don’t have those sorts of politicians in Australia: who, unlike Vance, don’t just stop while the heckling stops, then start again: and if the heckling starts again, have the balls to tell the interview he or she has no control over the audience.

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Dear mhaze,

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You declared :

« The subscriptions represented corruption on a grand scale … including Treasury »
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When pressed to provide proof of that declaration, you indicated that it was based on the following evidence :

« … in my world, a government surreptitiously passing gigantic funds to friendly media in order to get favourable reportage from said media, is government corruption. »

To which I replied : “Instead of irrefutable proof, you simply insinuate that there has been foul play. That, I’m afraid, is grossly insufficient.”

Your response was : « … it’s my opinion, based on the balance of probabilities, that this was outright corruption of the supposedly 'independent' media. »

So, your initial declaration, that you had expressed as an established fact – and vigorously defended as such right throughout this lengthy discussion – was merely an opinion.

I find that extremely misleading and highly regrettable.

All too often, some posters here on OLO express their opinions as though they were expressing established facts. There is no clear indication of whether they are expressing facts or opinions. It is impossible to distinguish between the two.

Whereas I wrote : « It's a vast operation of Trump propaganda » as a logical conclusion of the technical elements I indicated, rendering it impossible to prove corruption in the absence of a thorough detailed investigation, backed up by the fact that neither Trump nor Musk made the slightest allusion to corruption of any sort during their TV “show” in Trump’s office in the White House.

You can bet your boots that if there had been “corruption on a grand scale … including Treasury” as you claim, both Trump and Musk would have been jumping up and down and shouting it from the rooftops for all the world to see – and Trump would have immediately sued Biden and his administration in every court in the land, including the supreme court if necessary – shouting “lock him up !”.

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Well Banjo, you've dug yourself into an inescapable hole, trying to claim that your opinions don't need to be proven beyond reasonable doubt while mine do.

I think I'll leave you there.

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Dear mhaze,

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The fact that you have a reasonable doubt about my conclusion is not surprising – given that I have expressed a reasonable doubt about your opinion.

It will be interesting to see how things work out in the long run.

These exchanges have been quite fruitful, mhaze. I appreciate your contribution.

Many thanks.

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Dear Banjo,

I admire your civility and patience.

I'm finding it more and more
difficult to respond to posters who
do not present an accurate and full picture on
issues. Be it on Donald Trump, Israel and Palestine,
or country histories. It would certainly help if they
gleaned their information from reputable sources.
Unfortunately, they're incapable of doing that and
only present selective, narrow, and limited views.

Thank you for continuing to post and keeping things
balanced and on track.

It is greatly appreciated.

WOW! What a turn up for the books, Trump is now calling Ukrainian President Zelenskyy a dictator, as he sidelines Ukraine and Europe in the Russian Ukrainian War. Where are all the Forums Trumpeters now, as Dangerous Doctor Donald cosies up to that "Man Of Democracy" Putin. Yes these Trumpsters such as mhaze, were all gung-ho with Ukraine good, Russia bad, all the time they were singing the praises of their folk hero Donald. Well seems Donald is prepared to sacrifice Ukraine to Putin, provide he, sorry America, get a cut of the action with all those soon to be Russian lovely Ukrainian resources.

A BIG TICK to Foxy as the only poster here, who was pointing out how bad both Putin and Trump were. Foxy, I expect the Kudos Kid to be along shortly to sprinkle you with his wonderful pixie dust. Plus there will be heaps of adulation from Indy, mhaze and ttbn.