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Trump’s Authoritarian Populist Politics

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It would appear that Mhaze is so entranced with the cult of the boy-child 47th president of the USA that he has lost the ability to recognise sarcasm.
Posted by Aries54, Saturday, 1 February 2025 10:49:56 AM
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The Lowy Institute tells us that:

"In the interests of world democracies including
Australia, they are sound when the United States
is well-governed, cohesive, appealing, and strong".

They say that - "During Trump's first presidency
America was - poorly governed, divided, ugly,
and weak".

Have Trump's beliefs altered in the past four years
or will he be even less restrained this time around?"

It appears that he won't be less restrained.

What is concerning for Australia (or should be)
is that as the Lowy Institute points out:

"In foreign policy Australia's instincts run counter
to Trump's impulses. Trump is sympathetic to isolationism,
Australians are inclined towards internationalism. Trump
swoons over autocrats and strongmen. Australia is an
old democracy and a free society".

"Trump is an alliance sceptic. Whereas Australians are alliance
believers. Last time Trump treated allies not as friends but
as freeloaders. He threw shade on the principle of
collective defence and handled carelessly intelligence that
allies provided to Washington".

cont'd ...
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 1 February 2025 11:21:56 AM
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cont'd ...

The Lowy Institute says that:

"Canberra should brace for the turbulance on the issues
of trade, China, and AUKUS - and also the tariffs ahead".

We're told that:

"Australia will need to continue to build up its own
national capabilities and work with other allies and
like-minded nations especially in our region to
reinforce the liberal international order that Trump
disparages".
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 1 February 2025 11:48:33 AM
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Aries,

Oh it was sarcasm!! Methinks you are very bad at sarcasm then. And not all that good at walking back inane claims.

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Long term advocate for the globalist elites - the Lowy Institute - tells Foxy what she wants to hear. She believes them.

Stop the presses!

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Banjo,

"I did not make a list, mhaze. I simply indicated the names of three political leaders to illustrate my point."

And by sheer chance they were all right of centre. No Macron, no Scholz, no Trudeau.

You might want to pretend that it was mere happenstance that the list included only right of centre leaders. I'll draw my own conclusions and use that to make my own assessment of your vaunted lack of bias.

I note that you are trying very hard to avoid my point by pretending to misunderstand it. So again.... if you simply assert that Trump (and your other right-of-centre bogeymen) are authoritarian, populist, imperialistic etc without actually showing the actual traits that make it so, then you have shown nothing - zero. There's an old philosophic trick where an empty cup is offered with the assertion that it contains one's favourite drink. All you need to do is fill it with said drink.

Aspects of every US leader since Teddy Roosevelt could be used to claim the same for them. Ditto most leaders of Britain, France, Germany. If all are then none are, or at least the exercise is fatuous.

'I want Trump to be authoritarian and therefore he is', is a path to nowhere.
Posted by mhaze, Saturday, 1 February 2025 12:38:25 PM
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Its asserted without evidence that Trump is an agent of disunity.

What those who make the claim mean is that unity is only possible if everyone agrees with them. Its their main way of viewing the world.

But Trump, at the moment, is an agent of unity for the US.

In the last few days, RFK Jr and Tulsi Gabbard have fronted the Senate as Trump's nomination for various government positions. Both were until recently Democrats and in better times would have been seen as natural successors to the dills who ran the Biden presidency. But they found a home in MAGA because it better fulfills the aspirations that the Democrat party used to adhere to.

And not just those two. There are any number of other leading lights of the moderate left who recognise themselves in MAGA rather than the current far-left DNC.

"These senate confirmation hearings are highlighting the fact that MAGA is actually a unity movement, with the best of the Republicans AND the best of the Democrats, taking the country forward together and leaving the decrepit old guard behind."

This notion that its an act of disunity to not follow the radical left wherever it goes is bonkers.

I suspect most here won't understand that.
Posted by mhaze, Saturday, 1 February 2025 12:47:43 PM
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Oh dear, Mhaze you have just proved my point exactly. I haven't walked back any of my comments or opinions. You entirely missed my sarcastic bit (twice now) regarding the Gallop poll. Do try to keep up.
Posted by Aries54, Saturday, 1 February 2025 2:11:37 PM
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