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No Australian Money For Gaza

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Foxy,

What happened? I always respect how much time, effort and research you you give to this forum.

Regarding Ilan Pappe, Benny Morris himself a radical Israeli historian states that Pappe is sloppy and dishonest. Pappe has even misrepresented Morris' work.

The Liar as Hero - Benny Morris
newrepublic.com

As for your other claims of notable people condemning Zionism ...

Albert Einstein was initially skeptical of the Zionist movement, however became an outspoken advocate for the modern Jewish homeland.

Erich Fromm (I don't think had ever been to Israel) was a philosopher and psychoanalyst. He was against the Vietnam war and involved in the international peace movement. He originally embraced Zionism, but his philosophical position was such that he didn't want to participate
in the diminishment of human existence ... effectively becoming a pacifist.

When Primo Levi was interviewed about Israel, he stated, "There is no policy to exterminate the Palestinians"
Posted by WhiteMouse, Friday, 31 January 2025 6:29:45 PM
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cont ...

Naom Chomsky condemned the US invasion of Iraq "the worst crime of the 20th century", he opposed the Vietnam war. He had both Palestinian and Israeli friends and believed in a two-state solution. He did condemn the Israeli government for "repression" in the occupied territories.

Henry Siegman was an ardent Israeli, who believed in a greater Israel where both Palestinians and Israelis lived together. He believes that the policy of the Net His family lived in Israel and he was immensely proud of his grandson in the IDF.

Richard Cohen wrote "Israel: Is It Good for the Jews?" He believed the Middle East would continue to reject Israel, not only the Arabs. But because Israel is western in origin, non-Muslim ... and Jewish. He traced the genocidal fervor towards Jews to Haj Amin al-Hussein, Mufti of Palestine who joined the Nazis war against the Jews and promised to do to them what Hitler was doing to the Jews in Europe.
He stated that "Israel is not evil, but merely human.

The very religious and devout Rabbi Michael Lerner protested the Vietnam war, and supported the Black Power movement. He is a Zionist, and a pacifist, but critical of the Israeli government.

Anthony Loewenstein, an Australian journalist, has never been to Israel. He recognizes Israel, but is critical of its government. Believes in a two-state solution.
Posted by WhiteMouse, Friday, 31 January 2025 7:09:13 PM
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Finally,

Richard Falk formerly the UN Special Rapporteur to Palestine condemns the death of Palestinians in Gaza.

Mariam Margoles formerly an anti-Vietnam protestor, wants to see a cease fire in Gaza. She is exercising her democratic right to an opinion, which all people should have.

When looking at statements and actions it is vitally important to see them in the wider context of what is occurring. Only then can one see a reason for these.

Many apologies to the posters on this forum for such a long post.
Posted by WhiteMouse, Friday, 31 January 2025 7:26:14 PM
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UN Watch is making a big effort to get UNRWA defunded by Switzerland.

https://www.instagram.com/hillelneuer/reel/DFDn1JyNvvR/

UN Watch has collected a large amount of evidence which the organisation hopes will lead to UNRWA being abolished and many of its employees being charged with war crimes.
Posted by Fester, Friday, 31 January 2025 8:43:08 PM
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I have seen reports that the Organisation of Islamic Countries vote as
a block in the UN. It seems likely their 57 member countries could
have a significant affect on staffing and programs of UNRWA.
Posted by Bezza, Friday, 31 January 2025 10:07:37 PM
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Only western countries recognise Hamas as a terrorist organisation.
- i.e. not a global majority, and not other M/E countries only Israel
They are also the incumbent political party.

Basically just a small collection of Pro-Israel western nations.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas
A number of countries, including Australia, Canada, Israel, Japan, New Zealand, the United Kingdom, and the United States, as well as the European Union, have designated Hamas as a terrorist organization. In 2018, a motion at the United Nations to condemn Hamas was rejected.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 1 February 2025 6:33:27 AM
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