Hi AC,

"If America wants to go to war with China, why can't they keep their subs and put their own people in them?"

America has to share the killing, its good PR.

Like in Vietnam, America didn't want to been see by the rest of the world as a go it along bully boy which most certainly they were. Australia's effort in Vietnam compared to that of the Big Bully was little better than that of Swaziland, which was nil, only about 500 Australian dead. Like any bully, America has to have a collection of sycophantic arse lickers that's where Australia comes in.

Drones are vulnerable to electromagnetic interference and electromagnetic pulse affecting both communication and damage to electronic components. There are counter measures to harden devices but humans are sometimes the better option. AI can help in overcoming
attacks on communication with drones.

There is a military doctrine called C2 which includes computers, cyber, etc that is involved with defense and attack on ITC Information Technology and Communications. This has expanded a lot in recent years. See link below...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Command_and_control

"You want us to be the piss-boy?"
"You want World Government. Ok."

That's not even close to what I'm saying. The exact opposite in fact.

But obviously the subtleties of the case for the subs and of what I am saying has gone sailing over your head never to be seen again in your case. And frankly I can't be bothered continuing your education on these matters.

It's all very well to sit around and pontificate on the utility of subs in the modern world and opine that the admirals and military planners have no idea what they're doing buying 20th century tools for a 21st century war. But that significantly misunderstands the nature of modern warfare and how a new war over, say, the freedom of the seas or the freedom of democracies like Taiwan or the Philippines will play out. Drones obviously have a much larger place in the battle field than previously understood which the Russians are learning every day to their cost. But they have a specific place and a specific role which specifically DOESN'T include long range interdiction and patrolling.

There are thought to be around 500 military submarines in use around the world today with about 40% of that total being in the service or Russia, the US and China in roughly equal numbers. But obviously the admiralty of those nations have no notion of what they're doing and should be taking their lead from bloggers here. Ditto places like North Korea, Norway, Israel. All need the expertise of those here to learn how modern warfare works.

No ine knows how the next war will pan out. Or the one after that. But putting all your eggs in one (drone) basket is insane. Submarines are a multi-use tool providing both offensive and defensive capacities depending of the needs for the time.

We are a maritime nation and our economy and entire way of life is utterly dependent on the freedom of the seas and global commerce. As such we need to be able to and be seen to be able to defend our sealanes. We also need to allied with nations who equally seek to maintain the freedom of the seas - nations like the US, Japan and South Korea.

That's why we buy subs.

A Chinese “tourist” has flown a drone over HMAS Canberra, and the frigate Warramunga. The Sydney Morning Herald has a video of it. One Nation's Malcolm Roberts claims the drone was tauntingly landed on one of the ships.

No comment from the uniparty.

Makes Australian “defence” look pretty stupid.

Give them an inch and they'll take a mile used to be a saying.

In just another show of Western weakness to non-Westerners, UK’s PM, Sir Dropkick Starmer, tried to hand over the islands of Chagos to Mauritius. Mauritius has knocked the offer back, crying “more, more”.

The largest island of the archipelago, Diego Garcia, has a UK/US military base on it. President-elect Trump is not pleased with Sir Dropkick's offer, nor is anyone else who values Western security. Communist China loves the idea.

The Mauritius dissatisfaction with the deal is an opportunity for Starmer to come to his senses. But will he? There is no doubt that left wing governments cannot be trusted with very much at all: particularly defence.