Nah.

Let him fizz and sputter in his own grease.

ttbn,

I'm truly sorry if I've caused offense.
- But it's a hell of a lot of money.
I don't see what they can do that satellites can't.

I don't want us to go to war with China.
I want no part of it for our country, because it's madness.

All these people who say 'If you want peace, prepare for war'
Well that's good for military contractors and Admirals,
If we can afford it, and if it gives us capabilities that actually give us an edge.

For me 'If you want peace, then make peace'
Why must we antagonise others for no benefit of our own.
Defense is different to spying for others and provocation.
The only thing we're likely to get is more trade sanctions from China that will hurt Aussie jobs.

Build out our domestic nuclear industry instead.
Power up the economy and become competitive again.
And maybe we'll actually have a country worth fighting for.
Right now were a massively overpriced country, that offers little more than service jobs.
'Useless eaters'.

What are these submarines for ?
Well if a country wanted to take over Australia they would have to send
troopships with tens of thousands of troops on board.
They would not send those ships through a large area of sea when they
had no idea where the subs were located.
That is one reason, think of more.

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Dear ttbn,

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France just signed a contract with The Netherlands to build 4 attack submarines. The budget to replace its aging Walrus-class submarines, including a delta to operate the future vessels over their 30-year lifespan as well as a project-risk reserve, amounts to a total of €5.65 billion.

So, if we now want to renege on the Aukus deal after having reneged on the previous French deal, and go back, hat in hand, to the French, and ask them to take us back, I’m afraid we’ll just have to arm ourselves with a good deal of patience and sit on the bench until it’s our turn once more.

Maybe we could get ScoMo to do that. He owes us at least that !

He’s only 56. He’s got plenty of time to learn to speak French fluently so that he can easily explain why he changed his mind once again – something he was not able to do last time round.

If he can't make submarines and make war, he should, at least, know how to make love – why not with the French ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kegY0P6pRGk&t=184s

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Hi AC,

You ask; "WHAT IS THEIR EXACT PURPOSE?"

The exact purpose is we have to pay the piper. The bully boy on the block demands it. Don't you remember the school yard bully who took other kids lunch money in the name of "protection". America is Australia's school yard bully, instead of taking 50c for "protection" this bully takes billions of dollars.

It's too late for Australia, as America has decided that we are a "close friend" and as a "close friend" we are ripe for the pickings. They tell us to; "Pay up and shut up!....otherwise you could lose OUR PROTECTION, and those nasty Chinese will be down to get you!"

Baz

People too dumb to know what the submarines are for; too dumb to stick to the topic; too dumb to recognise the threat to our security; too dumb to stop voting for the same failed politicians, are too dumb to try dealing with. It's a good thing that nothing that they say here goes any further. We just have to hope real people - the so-called silent majority - do the right thing at the coming election.

In the meantime, if we keep reading the extreme crap these dumb people spew out, our mental health is at risk. We will end up as mad as they are. I have named the three main bullies to ignore. I will never again give them an opportunity to insult me. How you and other rational posters deal with these creeps is not my business; but 'sending them to Coventry' is my way. I have reach the limit of my tolerance. They no longer exist.