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Why religious freedom in a secular society is vital

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Hi Whitemouse,
"In the early days of white settlement in this country, we had Afghan Cameleers to whom we owe a great debt of gratitude. The were critically important in opening up this country."

I know what I said was kind of bad, especially mentioning Hitler.
I'm not saying I'm against foreigners, or that I specifically want to invade other nations, make war or discriminate against 'undesirables'
Once you start going down that path where does it end, right?

I'm simply saying 'We don't want to end up like those countries', do we?
I don't know what the answers are, I was simply throwing it out there.
- And stating that just to have that discussion, would be an ugly one that would cause a lot of controversy, because certain ideals would get stepped on.

We have a right to religion for example, but are all religions equal?
You see, that discussion is going to get messy.
But should we shy away from it?

I hope you all have a great day tomorrow.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 24 December 2024 9:41:43 PM
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Dear Critic,

«Every time we vote, we decide the lesser evil.»

Indeed, this is something we should remember more often:
- Decide indeed on the lesser EVIL, not the lesser unpleasant, not the lesser unprofitable, not the lesser irritating - only on the lesser evil, decide that we ourselves should be less evil!
Posted by Yuyutsu, Wednesday, 25 December 2024 12:01:23 AM
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Armchair Critic- "I know what I said was kind of bad"

Answer- I don't think you should self-censor yourself. I don't think you said anything that incites violence against anyone or was otherwise illegal. If we are too careful about political correctness and being afraid of the way that others interpret or intentionally mis-interpret what we say, we can't solve the problems that we face, and the Woke Marxist's win by controlling the narrative. I don't think we can avoid the concept of Hitler arising, even if we don't bring it up ourselves, because Marxist's and Hebrew's will bring it up. It's de rigueur for Woke Marxist's to invoke the dumb magic word "fascist" if they are losing the argument. It cuts through rationality to motivate an emotional response.

Thank you for bravely facing the problems that we face at Christmas Armchair Critic- just as Jesus Christ faced- and anyone who ever affected the world
Posted by Canem Malum, Wednesday, 25 December 2024 12:02:18 AM
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Posted by WhiteMouse- "In the early days of white settlement in this country, we had Afghan Cameleers to whom we owe a great debt of gratitude. The were critically important in opening up this country."

Answer-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burke_and_Wills_expedition
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_Victoria

Considering Burke and Wills expedition there were many factors that were important. Camels were considered as the high technology of the time for crossing desert terrain, given the scale of the challenge, I suppose it made sense to also have the most experienced experts in their use, and pay them well. The Commonwealth benefited many nations in the 1800's a lot of it during the reign of Queen Victoria, and this is one example of an international project that aimed to extend human capabilities.

I suppose WhiteMouse would equally argue that the west should let the mideast people settle into western industrialised nations because most of the oil that drives Western industrialism comes from the mideast.

Afghanistan and the West have had a historical relationship that has been mutually beneficial. Perhaps WhiteMouse is implying that Australia should allow Afghan's to have free access to settle in Australia- I wouldn't consider this a mutually beneficial arrangement.

It's helpful to consider international relationships in the context of the common-wealth, as Britain has done for hundreds of years (perhaps Rome also had a similar common-wealth).
Posted by Canem Malum, Wednesday, 25 December 2024 12:04:00 AM
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Unfortunately the situation in our world concerning the
living together of people is very complicated and the
question is who is strong enough to stand up against
the chaotic persons in the world.

If you listen to the latest news of the whole world it
often makes you despair with helplessness. May Christmas
give us all peace and happiness.

But it hits you particularly hard when you realise that
your own brain matter is not longer quite in order. I
read the reports of a brain researcher recently
with interest. He compared the
human "thinking apparatus" to a huge cupboard with
many compartments and drawers in which our kinowledge
is stored.

It's easy to imagine. And, given my age and everything
i've experienced and been through in my life I must
learn to understand that I can't recall some episodes
as quickly as I'd like. But there is one thing I have
not yet lost. My inexaustible humour.

My answer to all man made stupidity is humour, when
you laugh in spite of it. Of course there are some
things that are too ghastly to laugh at. That's when
frustration and helplessness sets in.

I wish everyone peace and happiness at Christmas and
the coming New Year 2025.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 25 December 2024 7:34:58 AM
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Hi Foxy,

Peace and joy to you and your family this Christmas, and may the new year bring happiness to all. I have a wonderful story to tell.

YESTERDAY, I was in the local green grocers. At the checkout a young girl in front of me turned and said; "Is that all you have?"... I said "Yes" (I had a piece of Pumpkin and a sweet potato), thinking she was going to let me go first. She said; "Let me pay for those for you." I said; "No you don't have to do that", she insisted. Such kindness from one stranger to another, a young person to an old person. Tells me the naysayers and pessimists we have are wrong, there is light in the darkness, and let it shine!

ALSO, I ordered some tee-shirts online from Temu, for the wife for Xmas, they didn't arrive, BUT this morning one of Santa helpers turned up with a parcel, yep Xmas morning, it was the tee-shirts, who said there is no Santa Clause!
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 25 December 2024 4:50:18 PM
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