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Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 6 December 2024 9:21:48 PM
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Hi mhaze,
I never condoned it. I defended the innocent as I should, and as we all should, but I don't have to care about a building. What have you got to say about the U.S and Israeli sponsored Jihadists attacking Syrian Christians? How many were beheaded today? The Israelis want to remove Assad, because if Syria falls, so do the Palestinians. Nasrallah stated so, and he protected Christians and Churches from the U.S sponsored Syrian rebels who have the open support of several branches of Al Qaeda. I can show you photos of the Syrian rebel leader standing next to an ISIS flag, if you want. - Not only that it serves another purpose, to overextend Russia You want me to support woke nutjobs in Georgia, and Jihadists lunatics in Syria. Where's your standards? http://x.com/AryJeay/status/1627063153619275776 Did you forget every single U.S. politician is bought off by the Israel lobby, and they will primary any candidate that does not pledge their allegiance? Erdogan is an Israeli shill, despite his rhetoric. I think he may have seen sense in supporting Israel back in 2016, when the U.S. tried to overthrow Turkiye and murder him. Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 6 December 2024 9:45:51 PM
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Judeo - Christian values....
Syrian Christians in ‘grave danger’ as Islamist militias take over Aleppo http://www.christianpost.com/news/syrian-christians-in-grave-danger-militias-seize-aleppo.html Israel is happy to see the 'Christians' dead for their own 'Judeo' values... There's your Judeo-Christian values, isn't religion great? Haven't I told you all I support 'ethics' over 'religions' too? I haven't changed my principles, and I don't find myself wrapped up in hypocrisies because of bias. I don't support sanctions and overthrows, I don't support harm to innocents, and I support diplomacy, dialogue, negotiations and compromise to conflict. Haven't you all heard my violin enough times yet? What the hell do you all want from me? Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 6 December 2024 10:01:55 PM
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Dear Yuyutsu, . You wrote : « So, you seem to shake off personal responsibility for that poor statement about the presumed origins of religion, placing it instead squarely on the lap of some Sir Edward Burnett Tylor, David Hume and the Oxford dictionary: Well while these sources may be very knowledgeable in their own fields, such as anthropology, science and technology, they have no clue about religion: at best they are just ignorant, or otherwise they were deliberately smearing that which they do not like. » . I’m sorry, Yuyutsu, I didn’t mean to upset you. Knowing your interest in religion, I just wanted to share my thoughts with you on the origin of religion that I was surprised to discover had already been posited by the Scottish philosopher and historian, David Hume in 1757 and by the English anthropologist, Sir Edward Burnett Tylor in 1871. Hume was ambiguous on religion. He was highly critical of religious belief but did not rule out all concepts of deity. Sir Edward Burnett Tylor was a Quaker who considered that the fact that modern religious practitioners continued to believe in spirits showed that they were no more advanced than primitive societies. Both Hume and Tylor studied religion seriously, both had critical minds, both were reputed to be intellectually honest and highly respected. . Apart from that, I see that it’s Geeta Jayanti, Wednesday next week, the day of the celebration of Srimad Bhagavad-gita when Krishna imparted Vedic knowledge to Arjuna, the Hindu archer warrior. And I understand that, according to the Gita-mahatmya, if you follow the instructions of Bhagavad-gita, you can be freed from all miseries and anxieties in this life. I hope it works for you, Yuyutsu. I wish you and your family all the best and a very pleasant weekend. . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zu0GFsN8i7w&ab_channel=Dr.BhagirathS.Naganath . Posted by Banjo Paterson, Friday, 6 December 2024 11:51:19 PM
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"I never condoned it.
I defended the innocent...." Those who fire-bombed the synagogue were innocent?? Struth. "What have you got to say about the U.S and Israeli sponsored Jihadists attacking Syrian Christians?" I have to say you're bonkers. "The Israelis want to remove Assad, because if Syria falls, so do the Palestinians." If Syria falls, it falls to people just as anti-Israel as Assad. Israel has no skin in this game. But they're probably happy to see Iran's bagman, Assad, in trouble. Not that Iran is a concern to them any longer now that they've had their missile systems dismantled by the Israeli airforce. "You want me to support woke nutjobs in Georgia, and Jihadists lunatics in Syria." Not support those in Georgia. Just get your facts right. I don't support them but I do know fact from your fantasy. And I haven't previously mentioned Syria so why do you just fabricate my views? "Did you forget every single U.S. politician is bought off by the Israel lobby," Every single one? Struth AC...the writers of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion had nothing on you. Posted by mhaze, Saturday, 7 December 2024 6:13:32 AM
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>>"I never condoned it.
I defended the innocent...." Those who fire-bombed the synagogue were innocent?? Struth.<< No mhaze, here: 'I could care less about the building, but I hope no Jews, firefighters or other individuals were harmed in the incident.' Do you not see that? I defended the lives of innocent Jews, innocent firefighters, and any other innocent person who may have potentially been placed in harms way. >>"What have you got to say about the U.S and Israeli sponsored Jihadists attacking Syrian Christians?" I have to say you're bonkers.<< Well, you don't know he world you live in. It's no secret Syrian rebels were ex-al Qaeda and were trained and funded by the U.S. And it's no coincidence these events in Syria began soon after Israeli / Hezbollah ceasefire. "Every single one? Struth AC...the writers of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion had nothing on you." OK, I'll admit that was a mistruth. - Every single one of them except Thomas Massie, that better? Thomas Massie Tells Tucker Carlson That Every Republican Congressman ‘Has An AIPAC Person’ http://youtu.be/2ieJkvkPU9M As for the synagogue fire-bombing, I don't know how many times there were bomb threats on Jewish centres and Nazi symbols sprayed over synagogues and it was later found to be committed by Jews themselves, but it's a significant number. Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 7 December 2024 6:39:55 AM
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"What connection has your last post with the topic?"
- Well it's all to do with 'religion' isn't it.
"All I can think of, is that it calls to deny Australian Jews their religious freedom and instead asks them to leave this Christian country for their own Jewish country, Israel."
- I wasn't implying to deny Jews their religious freedoms in Australia, nor was I saying religious Jews should go back to Israel.
- Nor was I condoning violence towards Jews themselves.
Moreso it was about the concept of 'blowback'.
Pointing that out, doesn't mean I condone what happened.
Do you think that Synagogue would've been targeted if not for the current war?
I say 'doubtful'.
Where I said 'not that I am specifically condoning it'.
* 'specifically' meaning
I don't support the harming of innocents, but I'm not entirely opposed to 'a little bit of pressure' that says 'We're displeased with Israels is currently doing'.
Maybe if Jews worldwide would speak out and say 'We're copping heat for what happens over there', Israel might stop the killings.
You think I care about one building? No.
I've seen Israel level hundreds of them that actually were full of people over the last 14 months, and the human cost.