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America’s Flawed Democracy

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Dear mhaze,

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You seem to blame the Democrats for all the political woes of America. I don’t recall your having mentioned anything the Republicans might have done that warrants your displeasure.

As I observed in one of my previous posts, mhaze, nothing in this universe is perfect, not even nature, and there is no perfect electoral system.

Since George Washington became the first president of the United States in 1789, there have been 19 Republican presidents and 17 Democratic presidents.

Even if the Democrats got everything wrong, the Republicans have had ample opportunity to correct them.

If things are still not working as they should, it affects both parties simultaneously and alternatively. The swings and balances work both ways indiscriminately.

A regrettable result of the 2024 presidential election is the hate and anger that has been stirred up by Trump. His version of Pat Buchanan’s 1992 “Make America First Again” has had the antagonistic effect of dividing the country instead of uniting it.

He hasn't been elected president yet, but he has already done a lot of irreparable damage.

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Posted by Banjo Paterson, Monday, 28 October 2024 4:18:43 AM
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And, of course, his version of Ronald Reagan’s famous political slogan in the 1980 presidential campaign : “Make America Great Again” (MAGA)

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Posted by Banjo Paterson, Monday, 28 October 2024 7:29:52 AM
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Dear Banjo,

Last night I watched - "The Choice 2024: Harris vs. Trump"
which SBS showed. It was billed as "an interwoven
investigative biography of both major party candidates."

The differences between Harris and Trump are stark and
frightening to say the least.

"Make America Great Again?" No. under Trump it will be -
"Make America Hate Again."

Unfortunately.

It's America's choice.

Hopefully rationality will prevail in the end.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 28 October 2024 9:08:52 AM
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"You seem to blame the Democrats for all the political woes of America."

We were talking about electoral malpractice and that's all, in my view and many others, down to recent Democrat leadership. Although in the past there were murmurs of relatively small scale cheating in national elections - eg the JFK win in 1960 - most electoral cheating occurred on the state, city and county levels with both sides being guilty. But that changed in 2012 when Obama bought Chicago style cheating to the national stage. It grew in 2016 and became rampant in 2020 when the Democrats decided that all bets were off in regards to getting rid of OrangeMaBad.

As I've said I think their cheating this year will get the worst candidate ever put forth over the line.

"A regrettable result of the 2024 presidential election is the hate and anger that has been stirred up by Trump. "

The hate that divides that nation didn't originate with Trump. He is a symptom not a cause. Remember how Obama sought to destroy his opponents rather than bring them in with talk of knuckle draggers and gun clingers or the way Hilary denigrated half the population with her deplorables antics. Remember those things? Probably not.

"Ronald Reagan’s famous political slogan in the 1980 presidential campaign : “Make America Great Again” (MAGA)"

It wasn't a Reagan slogan although he did use the phrase in speeches during the 1980 campaign. Bill Clinton also used it in 1992 and Hilary in 2008. But I guess it was okey-dokey when they said it because ....reasons.
Posted by mhaze, Monday, 28 October 2024 12:05:40 PM
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Donald Trump was not the first presidential candidate
to want to "Make America Great Again". Ronald
Reagan's successful 1980 campaign led with the same
pledge (Let's Make America Great Again).

According to Wikipedia - "It's since been described
as a loaded phrase". We're told that - "Multiple
scholars, journalists, and commentators have called
the slogan racist, regarding it as dog-whistle politics
and coded language".

Here's more information on the MAGA movement in the US:

http://britannica.com/topic/MAGA-movement
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 28 October 2024 1:47:25 PM
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Hitler Schmitler.

Trump's the kinda joker the American (WHITE) master race can rely on.

And woman lurv him too. Love to be "grabbed".

Just ask loyal wifesy Melania and true love Stormy http://youtu.be/Qd-W3tUnHY4?si=Ft6nosJlp5YABR2O
Posted by Maverick, Monday, 28 October 2024 5:03:31 PM
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