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America’s Flawed Democracy

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Dear Banjo,

Last night I watched the documentary on SBS -
"Stopping the Steal".

It ran for 1 hour 26 minutes.

Former White House staff and appointees shared their
accounts of when former US president Donald Trump
tried to challenge the results of the 2020 US
presidential election.

It was chilling stuff. And as you point out - American
voters have been duly warned. The man is not about to
change.

He should be in jail or in a mental institution getting
the help he needs.

America cannot have a man as president who does not understand
or respect the Constitution. A person like that should not be
running for office. Running a country does not equate to
running a TV show. He should never have been allowed to run
for office in the first place.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 30 October 2024 9:27:03 AM
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" I notice it’s a fairly short list of cheating committed exclusively by the Democrats..."

Yep, I'm not aware of any evidence of cheating in the national elections by others although it might be there. I'm sure you've looked!

"He subsequently managed to brainwash a cohort of weirdos,..."

Weirdos? Gun clingers. Deplorables. Now weirdos. I can't imagine why there's so much divisiveness. Its a real mystery.

BTW, here's one of those weirdos....http://tiny.cc/i8oszz. Praying in the capital...how weird is that!!

"Republican senators were obliged to torpedo it under pressure from Trump...."

You completely misrepresent (or perhaps misunderstand) that bill. It wasn't bipartisan although some RINO Republicans did sign up. It was torpedoed because it was a bad bill that would have let 2 million illegals into the country each years before the government even bothered to lift a finger to reduce the flow.

" He has built a power base of ill-informed and dis-informed disciples who obey him without question..."

Careful Banjo. Your Trump Derangement Syndrome, mixed with not a little paranoia, is showing.
Posted by mhaze, Wednesday, 30 October 2024 10:53:25 AM
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Dear Foxy,

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You wrote about Trump :

« He should never have been allowed to run for office in the first place »
.

Yes, I think you’re right, Foxy. He managed to avoid being drafted to serve in the Vietnam War as a student and, despite having been declared fit for military service following a medical inspection in July 1968, three months later that year, in October, he pretexted a bone malformation in his foot to be permanently disqualified.

He subsequently admitted that it was one of his great achievements in life.

Article II, Section 2, Clause 1 of the US Constitution specifies that, in addition to Chief Executive, “The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States when called into the actual Service of the United States”.

Trump’s permanent disqualification from US military service did not prevent him from serving as the Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy when he became president, nor of the four other branches of the US armed forces.

Nevertheless, I doubt that, before his election in 2016, any of the country’s eminent medical experts, psychiatrists, etc., would have certified, beyond a reasonable doubt, that Trump was inapt to be president of the United States.

But that would certainly not be the case in the 2024 election. This time, it’s quite different. Trump's severe narcissistic collapse in 2020, when he failed to be re-elected, is a game-changer.

His inability to realise that he lost the election shocked the world at the time. He not only lost the election, but he also lost contact with reality and continues, to this day, to believe he won it.

It’s difficult to imagine that somebody who has lost contact with reality to such an extent could possibly be considered fit to assume the exceptionally onerous responsibility of president of the most powerful nation in the world.

Eligibility for such an important function should, at the very least, be subject to a thorough physical and mental health test.

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Posted by Banjo Paterson, Thursday, 31 October 2024 3:37:17 AM
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" Trump's severe narcissistic collapse in 2020, when he failed to be re-elected, is a game-changer."

A game-changer? Its actually a figment of your vivid imagination. Zero evidence or even argument...TDS turned up to 11.

Biden today called all Trump supporters (50% of the nation) garbage.

So let's see,,,,

Obama - they're gun clingers, religion clingers, xenophobic
Hilary - they're deplorable
Kamala - they're Nazis
Biden - they're garbage
The odd nutter - they're weirdos.

Explain to me again how all the divisiveness is Trump's fault
Posted by mhaze, Thursday, 31 October 2024 8:19:18 AM
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It's a poor show when you are told by friends in the US to keep your political thoughts to yourself for your safety's sake, as an Australian visitor was told to do.

Niall Ferguson wrote an article asking if we (US) were now the Soviets. The answer seems to be YES.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 31 October 2024 9:17:04 AM
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dear Banjp,

Thank you for reminding us of the facts regarding the
former US president.

It is important that the public ought to get all the
information about issues not just limited information
and one opinion. However Trump supporters use strategies
to try to neutralize any criticism of their chosen
hero.

See you on another discussion. I'm disengaging from this
one because I can see the futility to continue with
some on this forum.

I appreciate the information you provide, your comments,
and your respectful dialogue.

Thank you for continuing to post.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 31 October 2024 9:30:21 AM
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