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Banning Nazi Acts And Symbols.

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It is now unlawful to perform the Nazi salute in public or
publicly display or trade in Nazi symbols with the
Albanese government's landmark legislation that came into
law from Monday 8 January.

The passage of the Counter Terrorism Amendment (Prohibited
Hate Symbols and other measures) Bill 2023 through the
federal parliament sent a clear message that there is no
place in Australia for acts and symbols that glorify the
horrors of the Holocaust and terrorist acts. So stated the
media release from Attorney General The Hon. Mark Dreyfus.

This is the first legislation of its kind and will
ensure no one in Australia will be allowed to glorify
or profit from acts and symbols that celebrate the Nazis.

There is no dispute about the enormity of Hitler's
Holocaust. But it is equally important to be as aware of the
accomplishments of the Soviet regime and its secret police,
which brought death to at least four times as many people
as Hitler did.

Stalin admired Hitler, and initially, the two worked hand
in hand. So if we're going to ban one set of symbols and acts -
shouldn't we also consider banning others that were
destructive as well?

If there is no place in Australia for acts and symbols that
glorify hate symbols and terrorist acts than should we
only limit it to banning just one set of symbols?
Many more suffered and still are suffering
under communism

Your thoughts please.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 8 October 2024 3:15:24 PM
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Are you mad? More laws that won't be enforced - just as laws against glorify and promoting terrorism are not enforced now.

"Nazis" dressed up in shorts and T-shirts like plumbers are a joke. Communism has been taken over by the Greens.

That fact that the Albanese government can, with a straight face, bring in a law against "Nazis" when they won't enforce already available laws against what's going on our streets now, is really sick. You are sick for dragging up this rubbish all the time.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 8 October 2024 6:23:33 PM
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ttbn be careful, you're not as safe as you may think. You claim; "Communism has been taken over by the Greens." What a load of rubbish.

"A self-described Nazi on Tuesday became the first person convicted in the Australian state of Victoria of performing an outlawed Nazi salute."
Jacob Hersant now faces up to 12 months in jail.

"Three men were convicted in June of performing the Nazi salute during a soccer match in Sydney on Oct. 1, 2022. New South Wales state had banned Nazi symbols in 2022. They were each fined and have appealed.
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 8 October 2024 6:35:18 PM
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I shared a link some time back to the same 'offending' Israeli flag with a blue NAZI symbol instead of the Star of David.

I also note there was an 82yo Jewish woman who called several mosques calling them all names and telling them to go back to where they came from and that 'Australia is for the Israelis'.

http://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/october-7-anniversary-live-updates-vigils-rallies-held-in-sydney-one-year-after-hamas-attacks-on-israel-20241007-p5kgci.html

She was charged with 'using a carriage service to threaten, harass or offend' but not with a hate crime for discrimination based on religion, not that I wish to see the old girl in jail.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 8 October 2024 8:58:33 PM
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‘Unprofessional’: Classic Aussie phrase offending people in 2024
http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/news-life/unprofessional-classic-aussie-phrase-offending-people-in-2024/news-story/3af3d520f8b6067b543141f7ed955249

Aussies now offended by the word 'mate'.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 8 October 2024 9:00:22 PM
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Dear Foxy,

«Your thoughts please.»

It is morally wrong for states to make any laws that restrict people and punish them for disobedience.

That is because the people in question were never even asked whether or not they freely wish to have anything to do with these states and be subjected to their laws.

While both Nazi and Soviet symbols are revolting, government has no moral authority to ban them and then punish those who display them.

Today a law was legislated to restrict and frustrate bad people - tomorrow another law will be legislated to restrict and frustrate good people, including yourself, preventing you from doing what is most dear to you and forcing you to do other things which you abhor. And even if no law is eventually legislated against what is most dear to you, so long as government can legislate it, you will still have to live in constant fear that it might.

Well thanks, but no thanks!
Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 8 October 2024 11:52:40 PM
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