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Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 2 August 2024 1:06:31 PM
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So Paul, you don't actually know they are paying more or less or the same as non-business consumers but assume its less because....well just because.
http://www.ratecity.com.au/energy/articles/difference-business-residential-electric-rates The fact is they actually pay more. How much more depends on the size of the business and area they are in. But if you compare consumer and business electricity plans even you could probably see they pay more. And that's before the government subsidies handed out to voters to try to hide the increases with Albo promised wouldn't happen. I've done bookwork for many businesses over the years and every single one paid a higher rate than consumers even before you consider issues like off-peak rates. So just assuming they are paying less because that's what you want to believe isn't how the real world works. The real world - you should join it one day. Posted by mhaze, Friday, 2 August 2024 2:38:33 PM
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The latest inflation figures show fruit, vegs, bread,
and dairy, have all jumped in cost in the last month. There's an inquiry , we're told, the first of many, by the Australian government looking at food prices to ensure they're fair. Farmers have argued for too long that they've had it hard when meeting the major retailers at the negotiating table. We're told that time and time again growers of fruit, vegs, milk and meat have privately recounted tales of bullying by the retailers, essentially pushing them to supply more for less. Publicly they haven't been prepared to speak out for fear of retribution. Last year Coles and Woolies both reported profits of more than $1 billion. I've recently watched Miriam Margolyes travel programs where she travels around regional Australia and meets and speaks with farmers. It's a sad state of affairs at present. Mos Australians do want food security. But how to achieve it and be fair to all is apparently no easy task. Hopefully someone will be able to come with a mix that will satisfy all sides. Posted by Foxy, Friday, 2 August 2024 4:20:21 PM
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Poor Old mhaze, comprehension is not your strong point.
You said; "but assume its less" No I didn't assume anything of the sorts. What I said was "they could be" there is no assumption in that phrase, nor does it say its valid. I could say mhaze could be intelligent, but I would most likely be wrong. Then he gives me a something from 'RateCity', a domestic consumer site. Well I don't think the likes of Woolworths and Coles use info from 'RateCity' to get themselves the best power deal, nor like mhaze they're not paying top dollar with Dodo electricity. Then he tells use about his book-keeping experience with some nickle and dime outfits, where he was most likely cooking the books down at Freddie's Take-Away, all for a free kebab on a Friday night. Probably studied high school commerce as well. Trumpster your wonders never cease! Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 2 August 2024 5:03:32 PM
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Still Paul, you've simply asserted that big business (ooooh, boogie man) is getting cheaper electricity than others. You've haven't got the slightest evidence for that except your standard marxist conspiracy theories. (You see, Paul, that's the difference between us - you make up fantasies and pretend they're reality, I go and research reality which is why I provided links - do you know how to do that?)
But even if what you say is true, (and we both know its bollocks) that doesn't change my original point that rising electricity costs leads to rising supermarket costs. But I suspect that requires a level of cognition that is beyond you. Posted by mhaze, Saturday, 3 August 2024 7:43:34 AM
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Mr Trumpster, your comprehension of economics is abysmal, Did Freddie sack you from that job of cooking his books, when he said "Trumpster I need you to cook the books" he didn't mean for you to drop them into the hot chip fryer like you did!
Anyway, enough about your work experience. You said; "my (Trumpster) original point that rising electricity costs leads to rising supermarket costs" No necessarily overall, it will be a contributing factor in pricing, but its certainly not the only factor in determining supermarket prices at the check-out, electricity could go up but prices could at the same time go down. Something they didn't teach you in high school commerce class did they. BTW, where is your evidence that electricity costs for supermarkets rose 6.3% last year, you're still thinking the big guys are paying the same top rate that Dodo is charging you, and they get their deal from online retail sites, oh dear you are way shy of the mark. Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 3 August 2024 8:06:48 AM
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This is what you said in reference to supermarkets; "massive numbers of lights, 'frigs, ovens and air-conditioning. All running on electricity. All costing 6.3% more to run this year than last. (Actually more than that since they (supermarkets) don't get the subsidies).
ALL COSTING 6.3% MORE TO RUN, well no not necessarily, YOU don't have a clue as to what supermarkets are paying for electricity. They could be paying 20% less this year than last. No surprise you are a Trumpster, most are at your level of intelligence, including your relatives in Borneo!