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Religious Freedom - Or the Right To Discriminate?
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Posted by ttbn, Monday, 25 March 2024 7:52:59 AM
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Dear Ttbn,
«We already have freedom of religion.» Well yes, we retain our freedom to practice our religion even if persecuted, tortured and being fed to the lions - is this what you meant, Ttbn? Posted by Yuyutsu, Monday, 25 March 2024 7:53:09 AM
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Probably many differing points of view on this topic.
A conflict between laws and sins? Is the 'right to religion' really a right or is it a privilege? If it was a right, then it would not be hindered by laws, right? Laws state 'equality for women and homosexuals' Laws also stand in between religious beliefs and acts of religious extremism. Are all religions the same? Is one religion the same as another? (Assuming a 'right' to believe in any of them is 'equally' accepted) Are some more ethical and less hostile than others? A 'turn the other cheek and forgiveness' approach? Or an 'extreme, segregated, approach supporting vengeance and domination over others? Are some religions more or less tolerant of others? Are religions themselves lawful, and SHOULD all laws apply equally to them? None of the religions are really ethical, which is why we need laws. Right now we witness a large number of Christians either openly supporting Israel, - or at a minimum turning a blind eye to the killing of innocent Palestinians. Do the religious really support their own religions? Or only some parts of it, sometimes? If the so-called religious don't even support their own religions all the time, then what's the point of any of it, including this discussion? As for 'the Right To Discriminate?' Are we talking about the right of the religious to discriminate against others? Or are we talking about about the right of others to discriminate against the religious? And who wins here, if anyone? Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 25 March 2024 8:42:08 AM
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Folks,
Here are the facts freely available on the web: 1) The federal government has released a major report about anti-discrimination laws and religious schools in Australia. 2) The report was done by the Australian Law Reform Commission. 3) The Australian Law Reform Commission's job was to provide the federal attorney-general with advice about how to bring the law into line with current social conditions and community needs. 4) The Australian Law Reform Commission is made up of independent legal experts. 5) The Commission first started looking into the rights of religious schools in 2019 at the behest of the Morrison government. 6) This debate has been complicated by a mix of relevant state and territory laws and the lack of laws protecting against discrimination on religious grounds at the federal level. 7) The report notes that many religious schools in Australia already have inclusive enrolment and employment policies and they don't want to discriminate against either students or teachers on any grounds. 8) The Commission also highlights the importance of religious faith in the Australian community and says families should be able to continue to choose schools for their children that align with their values and beliefs. 9) The Commission also notes that the laws do need changing to make sure that religious schools are not given a blanket exemption from the rules designed to protect people against discrimination. Posted by Foxy, Monday, 25 March 2024 8:43:29 AM
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Hi Yuyutsu,
"Well yes, we retain our freedom to practice our religion even if persecuted, tortured and being fed to the lions..." - After watching this earlier I say no thanks to that. http://twitter.com/AMAZlNGNATURE/status/1771941338109350346 A man wakes up and finds a lion looking at him through his window. Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 25 March 2024 8:50:04 AM
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Dear Foxy, . You ask : 1. « Should religious schools have the right to discriminate? 2. Should they still get public government funding if they do? 3. Should gay kids be deprived of a religious education? 4. Should gay teachers be allowed to teach? » My opinion : • Religious discrimination is related to religious persecution. People have been imprisoned, tortured, and executed for heretical beliefs. • Article 18 of the ICCPR (International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights) of the UN protects theistic, non-theistic and atheistic beliefs, as well as the right not to profess any religion or belief. • Any exemptions from that rule should apply universally and not just in favour of religious schools. • If religious schools are exempted from the rule they should automatically lose the protection afforded by Article 18 of the ICCPR and government funding. • Gay teachers should not be treated differently from other teachers. . Posted by Banjo Paterson, Monday, 25 March 2024 9:03:29 AM
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Smith believes that we are already done for; we just don't realise it yet, and the demise will be recognised only by future historians.
Despite the ramblings of cynics and atheists, Western civilisation IS based on Judeo-Christianity: the very thing Albanese et al are attacking.
Mass immigration, beloved of Albanese, is a weapon against that Judeo-Christianity - not too much of that amid Third World colonisation of Australia by immigrant hordes.
Mass immigration; identity politics; special privileges for minorities (pure Maoism); censorship; lies about the cause of climate change; Net Zero, now the attack on Christianity thinly disguised as “religious freedom”.