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Religious Freedom - Or the Right To Discriminate?

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"I am still hoping that there will be a bipartisan
support.."

Me too. I live in hope that one day the fascists of the left will realise that they don't have the right to demand that everyone lives by their standards and that individuals and like-minded groups have a right to live by their own standards.

A bipartisan view that one person's rights don't end where another person's feelings begin. Unlikely but who knows.

Of course, for some the word 'bipartisan' means "everyone should agree with me".

While we're at it, I also live in hope that there'll come a time when people realise that just because government deigns to return some of the money it took via taxation, doesn't give it the right to demand adherence to its dictates in return for said money. But in such a world, the power that the fascists of the left crave would be diminished and therefore its unlikely to happen.
Posted by mhaze, Wednesday, 27 March 2024 1:08:56 PM
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Dear Mhaze,

«I also live in hope that there'll come a time when people realise that just because government deigns to return some of the money it took via taxation, doesn't give it the right to demand adherence to its dictates in return for said money»

Government printed that money and government took some of it back, it is their money and they can do whatever they like with it.

If you ask for their money, then they may set their conditions and should you accept these conditions, then you only have your own greed to blame.

The way to get rid of governments and their demands, is to spit on their money and not want anything to do with it - stop accepting bribes so the only thing they could do with the money they printed is to wipe their bottoms with it.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Wednesday, 27 March 2024 1:32:23 PM
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Yuyutsu, the money the government has is what it took from the citizenry. Its not their money, its taxpayer money. They are effectively confiscating a portion of the wealth and effort of the taxpayer.

That they deign to return a portion of that to those it took from doesn't mean they have the right to dictate how you live your life.

In this instance, government says it has a duty to educate the populace and it uses the funds it confiscated to do that. They can't then turn around and say they'll only perform their duty if you live by the standards they set - well at least not in a democracy.
Posted by mhaze, Wednesday, 27 March 2024 1:41:30 PM
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«Yuyutsu, the money the government has is what it took from the citizenry. Its not their money, its taxpayer money.»

When they started printing money, they also set some conditions on it, and one of them was taxation. Take it - or leave it!

«They are effectively confiscating a portion of the wealth and effort of the taxpayer.»

That "wealth" is mostly in money which they created, your real wealth is much harder for them to take away.
Were you not aware when you initially acquired that kind of wealth that taxes are an integral part of it?

This is exactly what Jesus told the Pharisees: "Give unto Caesar what is his".

The greatness of Jesus was that he was neither tempted by nor ever scared of them.

«That they deign to return a portion of that to those it took from doesn't mean they have the right to dictate how you live your life.»

Only if you accept their filth, especially being money that they forcibly took from other tax-payers with or without their consent, in which case they succeed in making you an accomplice in their crimes.

«In this instance, government says it has a duty to educate the populace»

Well of course, this is what governments are all about, they are not content with their money but want your childrens' souls as well.

You can obviously see through their lies and recognise that they have no real duties whatsoever.

«They can't then turn around and say they'll only perform their duty if you live by the standards they set»

Well they obviously can and they do!

They can say anything they like, because they have a tongue and they can even cut off yours, but even then you and I know too well what these predators truly are and how all they say is false.

«- well at least not in a democracy.»

Have you ever seen any such thing - or is this supposed to be a bitter joke?
Posted by Yuyutsu, Wednesday, 27 March 2024 2:18:18 PM
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This may be of interest:

http://theguardian.com/australia-news/2024/mar/23/australias-religious-and-sex-discrimination-laws-need-fixing-a-new-report-says-what-happens-next

It looks like this debate will continue for some time yet.
As stated earlier.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 27 March 2024 4:28:50 PM
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Thank you to everyone for sharing your enthusiasm
for your beliefs and your faith. And your opinions.

I wish that all the schools in this country, in all
their diversity, were simply available to all children
and their families without discrimination.

Enjoy the holidays with your families.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 27 March 2024 4:37:43 PM
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