Indy,

Fact, there are around 300,000 people living in Australia aged 18.

"community orientated tasks" for 300k who say require 1 in 20 persons supervision, support assistance and qualified trainers that's a figure of 15,000. Since its universal, those not in easy access of training facilities require accommodation, meals etc. This is impractical and nothing more than a thought bubble. My idea that Australia puts the first man on Pluto is just as practical, if not easier.

You mention "teenage crime" now we get to the nitty-gritty, your negative resentment of young people shows through. You want this to be a form of punishment for bad teenagers.

Here again:

At a press meeting Goebbels tells an American journalist: "If Roosevelt had something like the SS, there wouldn't be any Gangsters left in the US!"
The journalist answers: "Of course not. They would all be squad leaders by now."

We must remember why we fight China, why we need those submarines and all - so that our children will be safe from their totalitarian atrocities.

But should that terrible day ever arrive when Australia treats its youth no better than how the Chinese treat theirs, that day I would not only pray for God to stop the rain, but I would also be cheering and waving for the Chinese troops as they march into Australia - and along with me will be hugging the Chinese soldiers millions of young Australian camp-survivors and partisans of their same age.

The crime rate for our youth is on the rise.
Young people are floundering. Giving them
training in skills, discipline, goals, is not
punishment. It shows them alternatives, and
what they are capable of achieving if they
make different choices in life.

Dear Foxy,

«The crime rate for our youth is on the rise.»

Possibly, from 1% to 2% - is that a valid reason to punish the remaining 98% who are disciplined, skilled and productive to begin with?

""community orientated tasks" for 300k who say require 1 in 20 persons supervision,"

Actually, in the old work for the dole days, the ration was 1 supervisor per 5, and that was considered too low. The cost would be horrendous. Yes it's a thought bubble with precious little thought.

"My idea that Australia puts the first man on Pluto ..."

I think that's illegal.

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oh, sorry, you meant the planet!! http://www.pngall.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Disney-Pluto-Download-PNG.png

Hi Yuyutsu,
"A major consideration would be, who would be running this voluntary 'employment program', and whether they will consider the good of the young participants paramount or rather the good of the state and national interests."

It would be a balanced approach, between skills / training and empowering the person at the bottom of the pile to go on to better things outside of this program, and benefiting the government get things done in a manner that saves it money, or uses the taxpayers money in a way that gets them more bang for their buck.

"Should the 'campers' be taught by fine musicians (like in the clip you referred us to earlier) to play beautiful classical music in luxurious comfortable hotels, rather than be crawling in the mud under barbed wire, exposed to the elements while constantly being shouted profanities at, threatened, humiliated and deprived of sleep, then I can see Indyvidual pulling out his hairs on seeing how his vision collapsed and purpose reversed."

They're just kids.
They shouldn't be in a war zone.
Maybe the footage shown isn't representative of all the 'camps'.
But just to see that they have at least one camp like that, should at least give one hope that they are being reasonably well cared for.

As for the likely possibility that these kids would be exposed to a Russian way of thinking rather than a Ukrainian one, well what do you want? If you went with the 'lesser evil' approach, then being exposed to Russian way of thinking is still better than being left in a war zone in minus zero temperatures to freeze, starve or have bombs dropped on them.