Banning symbols is a mixed bag.

Why only choose one select group?

In this case - it was announced that the state of Victoria
has become "the first Australian state or territory to ban
the public display of the Nazi symbols in recognition of its
role in inciting antisemitism and hate."

"Anyone who intentionally displays the Nazi symbol in public
will face penalties of up to almost $22,000, 12 months
imprisonment, or both."

This makes it a criminal offence for any person to intentionally
display the Nazi symbols and the Nazi swastika.

What about the communist hammer and sickle, red star, or the
communist flag?

Both the Nazis and the communists had committed unheard of
cruelties. Concentration camps - on both sides of the
front - operated at a high pitch prior to and during the
war years.

While the USSR policy of mass murder preceded that of Nazi
Germany, most notably with the artificial Ukrainian famine of
1932-33 the wholesale destruction of the Russian
peasantry, and later of the peasantry and intelligensia in the
occupied territories as well.

Stalin admired Hitler and initially the two worked hand in
hand. Therefore it is equally important to be aware of the
accomplishments of the Soviet secret police -who brought
death to at least four times as many as Hitler did in his
years as a leader.

The Nazis have been pursued all over the world for their
crimes, the communist criminals were allowed to go free.
They were in effect given tacit permission to continue
the operation of their concentration camps, to expand their
draconian system to include psychiatric wards, thereby
raising torture, suppression, and murder to a science.

We need only look at what's happening today in the Ukraine.

Communist symbols for many are also painful - and if we are
going to ban Nazi symbols - we should also ban communist ones.
Or it becomes extremely one-sided and selective. .

I oppose Nazism and its symbols.
I oppose Communism and its symbols.
Anyone who forcibly, by threat of prison and the like, orders others what to wear and what not to wear, is a step closer to both the above.

Dear Foxy,

It is all about the use of those symbols in our society. If Nazi symbols were kept to the memorabilia ranks this would now have been something that needed government intervention.

But they are being used by a certain hard right faction of Australian's to incite violence and hatred of others within our society, in acts our government, rightly in my opinion, has deemed incitement.

If similar communist symbols were being employed as incitement to violence and hatred in our country then I would be supportive of a ban being investigated for them as well.

As long as Palestinian symbols can be displayed in support of Hamas terrorists - and the distinction between Hamas and the people of Gaza is a figment of Leftist Western imagination - then it would be hypocritical to ban Nazi and Russian symbols.

After all, Hamas and Islam are the new Nazis wanting to kill Jews. The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem was among the first modern Muslims to be part of the Holocaust with his personal advice to Adolph Hitler. Islam has not changed its mind about Jews since that time. The Mad Mullahs are preaching anti-Semitic hatred in the Sydney mosques now, probably right at this minute.

Albanese hasn't done a thing about Palestinians in Australia screeching “gas the Jews”, when he has legislation to deal with hate speech and terrorism supporters.

Once again, Foxy proves herself to be a hypocrite and an unpleasant person.

I like Foxy's attempt to be consistent in the application of principles (even though I suspect her motives given her history).

Banning symbols is still affecting the ability of people on the multiple sides of an argument to present their case.

There has been long term bias in favour of the Communists and so banning their symbols would have less of an impact than banning other sides. Changing the momentum of the community is always confronting and controversial but if we do it to ourselves it is ok- but not if it is forced on us.

Society has been degraded to such a state that the institution of state and national government is no longer trusted. As John Galt says "get out of our way". Leave us alone to be free to create our own contracts and relationships with who we want.

State governments should pack up and disappear so we can create our own new institutions, tear down the shadow state controlled media (ABC), the shadow state controlled re-education camps (the University Academies, Managerialism), tear down the shadow state controlled secret police, tear down the insurgent commissariat of HR wokeist illegal politicized tyranny (Managerialism), things will get worse before they get better.

ttbn- Good point.

Radio National recently did a segment on how beneign and non-authoritarian Managerialism is- didn't mention once James Burnham's warning on the use of Academic Managerialism to achieve Dengian Communism and yoke business.

Dear Canem Malum,

«Society has been degraded to such a state that the institution of state and national government is no longer trusted.»

Excuse me - when were these ever trusted?

John Galt would never approve of states banning any symbols (yet you as an individual may ban any of them at any time on your own premises) - "sticks and stones can break my bones..."