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For Hamas the business model is Gazans' misery.

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Hi Foxy,
Regards mhaze and shadowminister, Netanyahu's personal spandex wearing cheerleaders:

The problem is they completely ignore the terrorism of Israeli government policies and the actions of the IDF.
- For them it doesn't exist, and if it does, then it's all the Palestinian terrorists fault.

Beyond this they are solely focussed on the events of October 7 as acts of terrorism by Hamas, (that those events have nothing to do with Israels attitude and daily actions) and are quick to push an Israeli narrative that Palestinians and Hamas are responsible for everything, when in truth the Palestinians have a recognised right to resist occupation, that the events of October 7 were in fact a successful military raid, they don't wish to talk about the failures of the Israeli government or the IDF themselves who's job it was to protect the border, nor do they wish to talk about the fact that Israel killed many of the civilians themselves.

Metaphorically speaking, mhaze and shadowminister are on Team NAZI, angry that the French Resistance dared to defend themselves and their people and attack the occupiers.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 24 December 2023 5:48:29 PM
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Hi AC,

I think that people are beginning to see the truth
around the world. Things will have to change.

Please keep on posting. I always read your posts.
I can't say the same for some of the others on
this forum.

Merry Mistress And a Happy All Year!

Enjoy every moment.

Take care.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 24 December 2023 5:57:13 PM
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Dear Critic,

«I'm not so sure about that, democracy assumes the voters can have free and fair elections, a rule of law, including equal rights of the people...»

Nobody is perfect, but Israel still has it, actually more so than Australia.
Yes, Israel's democracy has been under threat in the last year, but is still intact and Netanyahu was forced due to this war to abandon the efforts to dismantle Israel's democracy.

«I'd be more supportive of Israel if they dropped the Nazi-like attitude and actions»

Thanks, so would I.
I just believe that this attitude is of Israel's government, not of Israelis in general, nor of my family there.

«You know I'm not keen on the IDF as they act with hatred and vengeance (trained to do so)»

IDF soldiers come from all walks of life, many of whom are conscripts who are there against their will. Some harbour hatred and vengeance, others don't, but obviously the media would report more about the juicy former. Unlike many other armies (including the American), IDF soldiers are NOT trained to hate, only to do their job.

«90% of Israeli citizens support the current actions against Hamas and Palestinians, many want the IDF to crack down even harder.»

96% of Jewish Israelis and 34% of Arab Israelis "strongly support" Israel's goal of destroying Hamas.
Altogether, 75.4% consider it "Very Important", compared with the higher 80.5% who consider the release of all hostages "Very Important".
91% trust the IDF strategies, but only 23% trust the Israeli government.

When asked whether "the suffering of Palestinians should be taken into account while fighting", 13.8% replied with "very much"; 13.3% "quite much"; 35.1% "a little"; and 34.2% said "not at all".


[continued...]
Posted by Yuyutsu, Monday, 25 December 2023 12:24:28 AM
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[...continued]

«I'm not familiar with the event you mention»

As well as many other events that are not sensational enough to be reported by global news agencies.

While 100 supply trucks are insufficient for providing enough caviar to every Gazan, they are sufficient for providing them all with basic food, if evenly distributed. Israel allows 200 trucks per day into Gaza, including fuel for its hospitals, but why report such a boring detail?
Israel stopped all fighting in certain areas of Gaza in order to repair a major water pipe, but that's boring...
Dozens of Christian Gazans were trapped in a church in Gaza city. The papers reported it thoroughly, but not a mention when Israel released them and brought them to safety - that's boring...
Israel monitors Gazan hospitals to prevent epidemics, but that's boring...

When people are saved and do not die, that's just boring.

«So why are the same considerations not offered equally for the Palestinians?»

And why won't you offer the same consideration to Australian Muslims?
I suppose you just have no Muslim relatives and it's human nature to take care of your own family first.
That is unsaintly alright, but not evil, just "normal".
Posted by Yuyutsu, Monday, 25 December 2023 12:24:31 AM
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http://t.me/NewsWorld_23/3473

This shows the relative importance of middle east conflicts:
Posted by shadowminister, Monday, 25 December 2023 6:54:09 AM
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Dear ShadowMinister,

Don't you find it nice that the world considers Israelis to be adults who are capable of moral choices, unlike small children, animals or uneducated primitive tribes from whom it would be unreasonable to expect any such moral behaviour?
Posted by Yuyutsu, Monday, 25 December 2023 7:54:40 AM
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