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The Forum > General Discussion > For Hamas the business model is Gazans' misery.

For Hamas the business model is Gazans' misery.

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http://twitter.com/Partisangirl/status/1736984217345732859
Palestinian children being crushed as they beg for food.
Israel has cut off food and water to 1 million Palestinian children. Whoever they don't bomb, they starve for not being Jewish.

MSC, Maersk, Evergreen, CMA CGN, Hapag Lloyd, Wilhelmse, Euronav, BP etc.
- Are all avoiding the Red Sea.
This is no pinprick attack, fool.

This is a huge attack which will have significant impact on all western countries and the global economy.
Say hello to further inflation...
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 12:10:59 PM
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"And you want to be taken seriously?"

Sorry Foxy. As with my Cassandra post, this clearly went over your head.

Also Foxy, sitting in the belchers firing spit balls with little comment or understanding isn't a good look. We used to have Mr Opinion for that.
Posted by mhaze, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 12:11:19 PM
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Baldrick,

The right to resist does not confer any right to commit war crimes, especially the barbarity of those committed by Hamas.

It looks as though the sun is setting on Hamas as Israel kills its soldiers, takes control of the whole of Gaza and destroys its tunnels and hideouts.

As far as all the Iranian-backed proxies are concerned, Hezbollah has taken on the Israelis before and took a savage beating. Now that the Israelis are after blood there will be a lot less restraint. The entire bottom 500 km2 is within artillery range of Israel and can be flattened.

The Houties have free reign, but the US Navy will clip their wings quickly.

When Wagner attacked a US base in Syria, the Wagner force was wiped out in a couple of hours with about 350 dead.
Posted by shadowminister, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 1:16:39 PM
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mhaze,

As is your form in every discussion - you're the only one
who gets it. . And you twist everything to
what you think is clever - but actually you lose credibility
each and every time and come across as a smuck.

Take this conflict as an example. You think its clever to
use dehumanising language such as "Joos" to make a point.
It's cheap. It's a tool that has historically been used to
erode empathy and excuse unthinkable acts. It's one of the
most harmful and dangerous forms of propaganda and it should
be called out.

Just as describing people as "animals" "beasts" or "monsters."

As for your reference to Cassandra? I didn't miss your point
but you missed mine. Never mind. I didn't expect anything
more from you.

You go right on believing the myths - I won't debunk them for
you. Go right on thinking that Israel does have the right to
break international laws to defend itself. That it does not
have to show restraint in its response to the 7th October
attacks.

Believe that the people in Gaza can evacuate to safety.
That Israel does everything it can to avoid civilian deaths.
That the
Palestinian death toll being reported isn't reliable.
That any criticism of Israel is antiSemitic.

That "From The River to the Sea, Palestine will be free" is
hate speech and a call for the destruction of Israel.
And that Israeli people all support the Israeli government.

That way you can continue to have the "informed" conversations
That you think is your forte.

In the meantime as military operations are carried out with
little apparent regard for civilian lives - around the world
hundreds of thousands of protesters are turning out to call
for a ceasefire.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 1:19:54 PM
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Unfortunately Foxy, you've descended to mere assertion since you've learned that legitimate argument always ends up with you on the wrong end and declaring you no longer want to talk any longer.

Joos - you'll note (well not you but someone whose got the wit to do so) you'll note I generally preface it with words like 'evil' or 'dastardly'. Its a way to mock the attitude of people like yourself who only see the bad side of the Jewish state. Although I have to concede that if the mock goes over your head it probably is superfluous.

"You go right on believing the myths"
Oh you mean things like this.. "Investigations have disproved Israel's claims [ that there were tunnels under Shifa Hospital] ." Hilariously you made this clueless assertion the day before the tunnels were revealed.

"That "From The River to the Sea, Palestine will be free" is hate speech"

Only those who hate Israel don't realise its hate speech and a call for the destruction of the Jewish state.... and all that entails ie 7/10 on steroids.

" around the world hundreds of thousands of protesters are turning out to call for a ceasefire."

Yes Foxy, its terribly important to you that you have like minded people on your side. Around the world? Around the western world perhaps but a few 100,000 out of a world population of 8 billion is hardly a movement.

But you're wrong....I also call for a ceasefire. I call for Hamas to release all hostages and surrender and then a ceasefire will occur. And the killing will stop. Do you agree with that or are the lives of the Gazans less important than a Hamas victory? We both know the answer to that, don't we?
Posted by mhaze, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 4:55:09 PM
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AC,

I'm sorry but basing your views on an X feed from someone so biased that they openly call themselves 'pastisangirl', is just bonkers.
Posted by mhaze, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 5:01:05 PM
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