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For Hamas the business model is Gazans' misery.
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Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 29 November 2023 10:55:18 AM
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Foxy wrote: "I feel personally - the answer lies in lumping people
into one group and not allowing for individual difference. Be they Muslims, Jews, or anyone else." Foxy I'm really hoping you meant to write: "I feel personally - the answer [DOESN'T LIE] in lumping people into one group and not allowing for individual difference. Be they Muslims, Jews, or anyone else." Please tell me that's right. Posted by mhaze, Wednesday, 29 November 2023 11:27:43 AM
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Dear Paul,
«p/s I don't think Hamas would have fattened up the hostages, but fed them no better than what the average Palestinian was receiving.» They had enough food for the Thai hostages: <<< For some of hostages, the conditions were manageable. Roongarun Wichanguen, the sister of released Thai hostage Vetoon Phoome, said Saturday that her brother seemed healthy after he was released by Hamas in a separate deal. “His face was very happy, and he seemed OK. He said that he was not tortured, or assaulted, and had been fed good food,” she said in a video interview. “He was taken care of very well. It looks like he just stayed in a house, not the tunnel,” she added. >>> - http://edition.cnn.com/2023/11/27/middleeast/israel-hamas-hostages-testimony-conditions-intl/index.html Posted by Yuyutsu, Wednesday, 29 November 2023 11:43:11 AM
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AC,
Where do I start? "You criticise me for what I say, but you can't argue what I say is untrue because everything I said in that comment... can be easily verified." I can argue against your moronic assertions but it'd be futile because you reject all information that doesn't suit your narrative. What you say can't be verified although I'll accept that you can find any number of likeminded fools who fall for this rubbish and that you have a well honed system of falling for anything that suits to prejudices. That's why I spent so much time trying to get you to see how your lack of credulity on these issues led you to fall hook, line and sinker for the Sifa Hospital story and led you to fall hook, line and sinker for the story about Ukraine banning the Russian language. But I know that you'll never change, never learn because if you did you'd have to abandon 90% of your assertions. "We have a whole Arab Spring war supported by the CIA to take out the leadership of Israels neighbours" Well the Arab Spring replaced Israel's greatest friend in the Arab world, Hosni Mubarak . with Mohamed Morsi, head of the Muslim Brotherhood who were Hamas in all but name. Isn't it a bitch when the facts don't concur with what you so want them to be? Still AC, you're a past-master at ignore unwanted facts. I could go into a whole spiel about Morsi's hatred of the Jews and provide quote after quote, but you're not interested, are you? You, like the authors of the Protocols, believe the Jews control the world economy and cause most of the wars. The problem (for you) is that you can always find likeminded drongos who will reinforce your wholesale misunderstand of the truth of such things. And, in your case, there's no coming back from that. You're too far gone. What amazes me is that people like Foxy and Paul and even SR are prepared to be associated with these views. Posted by mhaze, Wednesday, 29 November 2023 11:57:38 AM
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mhaze,
I thought that my post was quite clear. But perhaps I didn't put it well. My apologies. Of course I was referring to NOT lumping people into one group. Be they Muslims, Jews or anyone else. We have to allow for individual differences and not veer into prejudices - such as anti-Semitism when one speaks of "The Jews" as an organized group - controlling finances, movies, or anything else. Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 29 November 2023 12:13:39 PM
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mhaze,
Your statement about myself, Steele, and Paul, being associated with what you've called - "such views" I don't understand. Please explain what views you are referring to that we're supposed to be associated with and to which you apparently object so strongly. All we've tried to do is avoid the constructed fallacies of the past and present in both Israel and Palestine as well as the constant manipulation of the relevant facts which work against the interests of all those victimized by the ongoing bloodshed and violence. For someone who appears to be concerned with stereotyping and interested in the facts - you should understand the points we're making and why - instead of being surprised by them. Sounds like a bit of a double-standard that you're practicing. Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 29 November 2023 12:30:21 PM
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And tell both you and your apparently 'peedo obsessed' boyfriend charter boat where you can both go.
If I was to do that though, you can bet I'd make it really worthwhile.
- Well you two twits are hardly worth the effort.
You criticise me for what I say, but you can't argue what I say is untrue because everything I said in that comment (bar the ADL 'hate speech' being the start of all this woke crap and censorship) can be easily verified.
My criticism are not based in Jewish hate, it's would be better defined as a 'War on Stupid'.
What did I say to Yuyutsu the other day?
QUOTE>>Lets say hypothetically someone says something that I think is ridiculous on merit.
- FIRST I CHALLENGE OR ATTACK THE IDEA
e.g. "I think what you're saying is stupid"
- If a person defends that 'stupid' idea, effectively 'doubling down on stupid', I feel that its fair play to challenge or attack the person saying it.
e.g. "Well then, I think that YOU ARE stupid"
- It's a non-violent form of correction in our path towards the truth of things, and we need to get to the truth of things if we wish to progress and make things better.<<
My motive is primarily about STUPID IDEAS, not necessarily the people behind them, that's a second measure if they continue to support said STUPID IDEAS - and my arguments are based on merit and ethics.
If I was talking about China, Russia or Iran you'd be cheering me on.
- Why? Because you don't possess ethics or principles, only biases.
(And I would criticise others, if they were doing this)
Go and defend some other ethnic cleansers or child murderers or hospital bombings or something.
Go bend over and pull your frilly panties down and present to your masters.
IDGF