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For Hamas the business model is Gazans' misery.
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Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 21 November 2023 8:30:50 AM
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Dear Critic,
So long as you speak of just "One side [is the cause of conflict]" and "The other side [is the reaction to it]", so long as you fail to recognise that there are MANY dimensions to this story, nothing can change. Some of the women murdered on October 7th in the Kibbutzim near Gaza were peace activists - one was a leader in Betselem, who was fighting against settler atrocities in the West Bank! Some Nazis in Israel's government are pretending to cry over it, but in fact rejoice over their deaths. Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 21 November 2023 8:37:03 AM
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No matter, History will consign Israel to it's rightful place along with the US.
It's unfortunate that the Gazans had to be the catalyst. Posted by Special Delivery, Tuesday, 21 November 2023 10:16:31 AM
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SR,
"You still refuse to provide a link to a reputable news source verifying this?" I don't refuse to I just chose not to since you haven't the slightest interest in discerning the facts and only trying to discredit any information that doesn't suit your prejudices. For what its worth, here's where I got the quote. I'll leave you to explain why it doesn't suit your prejudices. BTW there are several other sources, including the IDF (there's an open invitation for you to tell us why the IDF always lies) who say that the girl was executed. http://twitter.com/sentdefender/status/1724183249767854524 ".... yet there is no firm evidence of them doing so." So you're going to pretend that the forensic evidence doesn't exist. Pretty standard there from SR. "the emotional claims from the link you posted were also qualified" You might note (well not you but someone interested in the truth)...you might note that I've never said the barbarians cut off the heads of the babies, only that they were beheaded. Further evidence needs to be forthcoming to decide that definiteively. "... “a mother and child bound together and burnt alive”." Yes it could have been a father/child, uncle/child, elder brother/child etc. Somehow SR thinks that changes the narrative. The thing he'll ignore is that we don't know exactly because the bodies were burned beyond recognition. But anything to muddy the water, eh SR? " perhaps it is best to restrain yourself until the proper investigations are carried out." This is hilarious and so very SR. After I've spent who knows how many posts trying to get him and AC to recognise the fog of war and the futility of being definitive about much of what is happening, he, having finally (....finally) learned the lesson, admonishes me to recognise the fog of war. This (THIS...) from the bozo who fell for the story of 500-700 people killed in the hospital by those dastardly Joos. You can't make this up. Posted by mhaze, Tuesday, 21 November 2023 11:46:59 AM
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AC,
"...so either take the blinkers off or STFU." AC, in his continued efforts to stop me pointing out what a fool he's been making of himself, wants me to stop pointing out what a fool he's been making of himself. Go figure. "the horrors Israel are inflicting on the people of Gaza don't matter to you," Oh contraire. Which is why I'd prefer that Hamas stop hiding behind the women and children. But this is war and Hamas must be eliminated. They are prepared to take as many of their fellow countrymen with them as they can in the hope it'll save their miserable skins, and that is unfortunately and horrific. But for the good of Israelis and Gazans and indeed the whole planet, the foul contagion of Hamas must be removed. Continuing his slide into deep do-do, AC asks "How many people do you have living in your own rape dungeon?" The man, as he realises just what a fool he'd made of himself, is becoming increasingly deranged, and not a little creepy. Posted by mhaze, Tuesday, 21 November 2023 11:56:46 AM
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shadowfiddler,
That report was put out less than a week after the attack. Much of the assertions have either not been verified or ruled out completely. mhaze talks about: "Those who fell for the hospital story have already long since forgotten it and memory-holed the entire incident." No we haven't and we adjusted our commentary as more facts became evident. That is not happening among you lot of RWNJs. You continue to talk about beheaded babies without evidence and continue to claim people were set alight by Hamas. As to the number of burnt bodies the Israeli newspaper is reporting "According to a police source, an investigation into the incident also revealed that an IDF combat helicopter that arrived at the scene from the Ramat David base fired at the terrorists and apparently also hit some of the revelers who were there." http://www.haaretz.co.il/news/politics/2023-11-18/ty-article/0000018b-e1a5-d168-a3ef-f5ff4d070000 The number of vehicles attacked by Apache helicopters firing Hellfire missiles was extensive. The pilots really had no way of knowing which contained only Hamas operatives. The investigation is ongoing. Posted by SteeleRedux, Tuesday, 21 November 2023 12:07:44 PM
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Israel is a terrorist nation.
They would murder hundreds of people just to 'claim' they killed 1 Hamas, (and you would support it) and of course no-one can prove it, because the evidence is under 14 stories worth of rubble.
You support the killing of kids, while crying about others who have been harmed.
- And that makes you about as fake as McDonalds cheese.