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The Forum > General Discussion > For Hamas the business model is Gazans' misery.

For Hamas the business model is Gazans' misery.

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Dear Foxy,

Thank you for your detailed response!

While I agree on the content of your reply regarding the mistreatment of these people, the list you provided has little to do with the dictionary definitions of "dignity", because it is about how one is treated by others (i.e. Israel) rather than how one is poised themselves ("being worthy of honour or respect", synonyms: stateliness, nobleness, nobility, majesty, regalness, courtliness).
I think it would be better to use correct language.

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Dear Paul,

«The Zionist Fuhrer Netanyahu has stated there will be no two states»

Netanyahu is not a Zionist - he is a petty criminal weakling that allows the Zionist project to be shattered in an attempt to save his private skin.

«He also sees the "war" against innocent women and children as carrying on for many months to come»

He does not care about the war, women, children, hostages, IDF soldiers or Israelis in general, nor really even about how many states there will be - only that so long as the war continues he is temporarily saved from facing justice, disgrace and personal downfall.

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Dear ShadowMinister,

«the village idiot think that a 2 state solution will stop Hamas and the PLO from their plans for Jewish genocide.»

It won't of course, only a strong IDF can stop these evil organisations, but a 2 state solution can help saving Israel from being considered by both the rest of the world and by its own citizens to be unworthy of defending.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Friday, 19 January 2024 4:31:42 PM
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Yuyutsu,

The words we use can contribute to effective
communication, empathy and understanding.
In the case of the lack of dignity and
Palestinian suffering - most people would
not have a problem understanding the word's intended
meaning. Still there are always exceptions.

Words to some are more important than the actions of others.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 19 January 2024 4:58:15 PM
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It is difficult to have any dignity when you're
forced to live under an apartheid system that
takes everything away from you.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 19 January 2024 5:01:21 PM
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Dear Foxy,

«It is difficult to have any dignity when you're
forced to live under an apartheid system that
takes everything away from you.»

I respectfully disagree: when everything goes easy, we only see pomp and anyone can do that,
but when under pressure, that is when one's dignity can shine!

Please be clear of your goal: if you want these people to be respected then why not state so - and if you want them to be worthy of respect that say that instead. At present neither of their respective leaderships is worthy of respect.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Friday, 19 January 2024 5:29:18 PM
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Yuyutsu,

The Palestinians have displayed dignity for decades
under an apartheid regime. Israel's cruelty, inhumanity,
insanity and continued murder are facts.

Until the current Israeli government is replaced the
chances of any genuine negotiations for peace and the
sharing of the land - are non-existent.

That is the sad reality.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 20 January 2024 8:39:26 AM
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"How do you describe what the Nazi's did to the Jews, you would not call that genocide..."


Soap Box has got him/herself into quite a lather there (pun intended).

The Nazis, in the three years that were the holocaust, wiped out around 70% of the European Jewish population and would have finished off the rest over the next year or two had they been allowed.

The Israelis, even if you forget that half of those killed since October were Hamas fighters, have killed around 0.5% of the so-called Palestinian population.

70%:0.5%. Yeah totally equivalent.

The Gazans are among the fastest growing populations on the planet and have basically doubled their numbers since Israel handed Gaza over to their control.

So if this moronic assertion that it is an attempted genocide were even close to true, the Israelis are doing a damn poor job of it.

Of course, its not true....not even close. But the Hamas cheer-squad need to deflect from the utter inhumanity of their heroes so they concoct this genocide claim to try to equate Israel with the Nazis, all the while trying very hard to forget that the Palestinians (or the Arabs that were in the Levant at the time) very much supported and were supported by Hitler.

Its laughable.
Posted by mhaze, Saturday, 20 January 2024 11:36:32 AM
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