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The Forum > General Discussion > For Hamas the business model is Gazans' misery.

For Hamas the business model is Gazans' misery.

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Hi Soap Box,

You can expect those sorts of personal attacks from the far right extremist posters, who use this site as a mouthpiece for their toxic propaganda. Any fair minded compassionate person would want to put an end to the killing of thousands of innocent women and children in Gaza. 90% of the World want that, as shown by the recent vote in the UN General Assembly. What motivates many far right extremist is no love of the Jews, in fact they hate them also with a passion, but their overriding hatred of Muslims, hoping for a Muslim extermination in Gaza, now, elsewhere later. For these extremists the Jews and their right wing government is simply an expedient tool to help meet that end.
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 19 January 2024 8:10:57 AM
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Our Foreign Minister, Senator Penny Wong has recently
been on a visit to the Middle East. She's spoken to
both Israeli and Palestinian Foreign Ministers about
the deteriorating human situation in Gaza.

She's made it clear that Australia wants to see citizens
protected and see humanitarian access provided.

She's made it quite clear that for anyone criticizing
Australia's stance on the situation that - Australia
has been consistent in Israel's right to self- defencbut
it has also been consistent on HOW Israel conudcts itself
in the carrying out o9f that - that matters.

Australia supports a 2 state solution in which Israelis
and Palestinians can live in peace, dignity, and security.

The war has been condemned around the globe. A large number
of Gazans are facing catastrophic humanitarian disaster of
starvation, dehydration, and homelessness. And any authority
or power that sees that as defensible in the name of
so called security - is commiting genocide and war crimes
and should rightly be held to account.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 19 January 2024 8:41:38 AM
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Dear Foxy,

«Australia supports a 2 state solution in which Israelis
and Palestinians can live in peace, dignity, and security.»

That would be good in theory, but how could Australia or anyone else for that matter force having a state on people who do not want to have one?

If that was possible, I would still support having two (or more) states even while there was no peace, because I cannot imagine any peace there when there are such violent extremists on both sides. While I do not believe peace there to be possible, I still hope for a longer cease-fire.

Now since you mentioned it, "peace" and "security" are clear enough, but I would like to also understand what exactly do you mean when you mention that they should be living in dignity?
Posted by Yuyutsu, Friday, 19 January 2024 11:10:37 AM
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Yuyutsu,

What does it mean for the Palestinians to be allowed
to live with dignity?

1) Not be treated as an inferior racial group by
the Israeli apartheid system and not be systematically
deprived of their rights. Not have massive seizures of
their land and property. Stop the unlawful arrests
and killings, forcible transfers, drastic movement
restrictions and denial of nationality and citizenship,
and the right of return.

That's just mentioning a few things that would allow
Palestinians their rights to live with dignity - without
discrimination. and be treated etnically.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 19 January 2024 2:27:04 PM
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The Zionists support a one state solution with the extermination of as many Palestinians as possible. The Zionist Fuhrer Netanyahu has stated there will be no two states, only Israel will exist with Palestinians as slaves. He also sees the "war" against innocent women and children as carrying on for many months to come, that's how long it will take for the Israeli death squads to do their dirty work against the Palestinian people.
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 19 January 2024 2:48:51 PM
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I see the far-left whinge village idiot is back after his suspension for foul and disgusting posts.

Terrorist fanboys like the village idiot think that a 2 state solution will stop Hamas and the PLO from their plans for Jewish genocide.
Posted by shadowminister, Friday, 19 January 2024 3:11:23 PM
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