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At present the Israelis are fighting a war with the Palestinians. In war many wrong acts occur. We can look at that war and compare it with the war between the settlers and government of Australia and the Aborigines. Australia had a policy of removing children from their Aboriginal parents and forcing Christianity, an alien religion, on those children. Although Israel is not free from criticism, the government has not removed Muslim children from their parents and forced Judaism on them. Can Australia look back at what has been done and apologise for forcing an alien religion on Aboriginal children?
Posted by david f, Monday, 16 October 2023 2:18:26 PM
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David never misses an opportunity, no matter how irrelevant to the subject of Israel or anything else, to show his disdain for Christianity. He has been silent for so long that I thought he might have left us to find out whether or not his attitude to God and Christianity was right or wrong.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 8:11:38 AM
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Hi david f,
I don't think any religion should be forced on any children.
I think kids should be allowed to decide on their own religious beliefs when they are old enough to do so.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 8:18:27 AM
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Dear David F.,

«At present the Israelis are fighting a war with the Palestinians.»

At present the Israelis are fighting a war with Hamas, possibly also Hezbollah: the general "Palestinian" population is not an enemy of Israel and many of them also oppose Hamas.

Yes, I am aware that some in the present Israeli government consider any Arab an enemy, but this is not how the majority of Israelis see it.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 8:20:43 AM
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Stirring up the Arabs isn't a good thing;
Firstly you risk every Muslim saying "We've had enough of this and declaring global Jihad on Israel, coming from nations all across the global south to destroy Israel... there's that

- Especially when they have a significant presence in all western nations now...

And then there's the fact that Saudi Arabia and Iran have mended the fences, and if the Arabs decide "Right, we're going to turn off the oil taps to the West until the Palestinians are given their own sovereign state, it's checkmate for the West.

In just a few weeks we could be paying 4 times the price for fuel and all Western economies will be destroyed with the only reliable oil source being Vladimir Putin.

The West wants to look tough, but they aren't really holding a great hand of cards atm.
With wars in Ukraine, Israel and potentially Iran and Taiwan, as well as a serious southern border problem in the US while their military stocks are low, their nation and empire is crumbling around them.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 8:35:40 AM
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"At present the Israelis are fighting a war with the Palestinians."
- Yes that's right and it's been going on for generations.

Under occupation every single member of the IDF is a legitimate military target, but killing innocent women and kids is still a war crime.

Israel either underestimated the Palestinians and Hamas, or foolishly thought they could allow the attack to happen and capitalise on it afterwards, but they've messed up.

The world has seen Israels true colours in it's 'scorecard' response, Israel may be forced to face up to the 2 state solution and they have ticked off the Muslim world.

They've already had to walk back their planned ground offensive.
Politically speaking, it will take years for the dust in Israel to settle.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 8:44:04 AM
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