Fester

Some people are obsessed with numbers: how many made fools of themselves on the streets; how many responses to a thread, and so on.

The the only numbers that count are the votes citizens cast in the secrecy they are entitled to.

The amount wasted on the aboriginal industry is correct at $39.5 billion, about the same as the defence budget. Fact checkers like RMIT will come up with what whoever pays them to come up with.

Keep up the good work!

The amount wasted on the aboriginal industry is correct at $39.5 billion,
ttbn,
85% of that doesn't go to Aborigines, it goes to incompetent & or corrupt bureaudroids including the fakes who call themselves Aboriginal i.e. the ones pushing the Voice !

Indyvidual

I don't know where it goes but, shamefully, neither does the political class. I referred to the allegations against one man involved in the industry, and other organisations are being investigated.

We need clarity on what is going on. Those people responsible for this ridiculous referendum are a disgrace and extremely stupid and arrogant.

ttbn

Thank you, but I don't think I'd ever convince anyone of anything. I think of the forum as a place for people to have a bit of a rant about the problems they see with the world. It is quite cathartic for me, and as I said to Paul, no matter how silly we might we might find one another's opinions, we at least care enough about things to come here and share them.

Yes, nearly 40 billion, or almost twice the money spent per capita on non-indigenous Australians. Excluding about 97% of the Australian population from control of some of those funds to help indigenous Australians does not seem sensible.

We need clarity on what is going on
ttbn,
I've seen good people who tried that being sacrificed ! The Peter Principle brigade backed by their unions will do anything to prevent a domino effect toppling corruption & rebuild with a less corrupt or incompetent clique !
Positions (some token) with huge salaries are not voluntarily vacated no matter how much is wasted & could be used on more important projects.

Fester

Don't worry about convincing people. I've been here almost as long as OLO has existed. I've seen a lot of people come and go. What I have never seen is anyone "convince" anyone else to change the opinions they started out with.

I'm amazed that there are still people who think that they can change the minds of other people - the sort that, once wound up, never run down.

Most people past 30 never change their minds. It's good to be able to have a say; that's all as far as I'm concerned.