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Would The Voice Stop The Vice?

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In the shadow of the Voice excitement another allegation of indigenous Vice has come to light. The Department of Social Services is investigating allegations of misuse of credit cards and overspending at aboriginal charities that are "caring for elders" in remote South Australia.

The allegations concern Jim Golden-Brown - once a NSW anti-corruption (!) officer - who manages $20 millions of government Aboriginal Community Services money.

Before Mr. Golden-Brown was appointed chairman of ACS, he had been sacked from another indigenous charity, and a probe into his spending there on overseas trips and booze is still under way.

There has been more than a decade of warnings raised about this person "at the highest ranks of the government".

Three former AFP detectives were sidelined from investigations by DSS. Government Services Minister, Bill Shorten, has been asked to intervene.

For reasons not given by Australian Financial Review, Mr. Golden-Brown changed his name from James Sydney Sturgeon in 2012.

Would the Voice stop the Vice?

There is a lengthy article at https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/indigenous-charity-head-s-trail-of-sackings-probes-and-misused-cash which would make Ned Kelly blush and put him out of the history books.

Being investigated. No proof. Remember: Innocent until proven guilty
Posted by ttbn, Saturday, 23 September 2023 1:47:39 PM
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Accountability and transparency are probably far more important. The Voice could make the expenditure of public money more obscure and so make it less likely to help indigenous Australians in need.

I hope that a no vote will also precipitate the demise of welcome/acknowledgement of country and "Sorry" card activities for little kids. It will be good to bury apartheid and celebrate a future of equality.
Posted by Fester, Saturday, 23 September 2023 7:59:23 PM
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Even the ABC is reporting on fraud and corruption allegations in indigenous organisations: 44 of them; all receiving hundreds of millions of dollars in grants from state governments. SA sweating off on a state Voice until after the federal referendum.

And, what about all the others with their snouts in the $40 billion trough?

Would the Voice find them and deal with them?
Posted by ttbn, Saturday, 23 September 2023 8:09:45 PM
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In typical anti- aboriginal bias ttbn says;

"And, what about all the others with their snouts in the $40 billion trough? Would the Voice find them and deal with them?"

Wanting to create the impression that if there's one bad Aboriginal then they are all bad Aboriginals. No one wants to see taxpayer funds abused, and when billions of dollars are involved the opportunity for fraud will exists, and all effort should be made to eradicate it. Billions of dollars of taxpayer money was misused during the Covid pandemic as the Noalition government splashed money about like drunken sailors to their mates down at the big end of town.

The Voice is proposed as a consultative body, and not as a policeman, so why do you ask that question.
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 24 September 2023 6:00:43 AM
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There's simply too much insincerity within the Voice movement ! Will it be worse if Yes wins ?
There are many who can't see that even now !
Posted by Indyvidual, Sunday, 24 September 2023 7:04:25 AM
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Ok here is a fair question;

If ATSIC was a failure, ultimately on its less than hidden (apparent) corruption, with all its alleged smouldering ends, what has changed now that a mirrored commission called the VOICE plans to succeed where ATSIC was disbanded as a corrupt failure?
Posted by diver dan, Sunday, 24 September 2023 8:06:28 AM
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