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The Forum > General Discussion > The treaty at the heart of Uluru.

The treaty at the heart of Uluru.

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The English Crown cannot be removed without a referendum
and needs to be supported by a majority of voters
nationally and a majority of voters in a majority of states.

The Voice to Parliament is an advisory body
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 14 August 2023 1:42:26 PM
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In his comeback to Andrew Bolt and others who have made clear their scepticism - based on genealogical records - of his claim to aboriginality, Reid still did not provide proof of his supposed ancestry.

The complete lack of evidence didn’t stop his Labor colleagues from giving him a big shout out of course. They believe anything.

Reid moaned about people's "desire" to "strip" him of his "pride".

'Legal definitions of Aboriginality' states:

36.28 In summary, the Commonwealth government appears to apply the three-part test of Aboriginal descent, self-identification and community recognition for determining eligibility for certain programs and benefits.

Reid's critics have decided that he passes on two parts of the test - self ID, (which is nonsense to my way of thinking) and community recognition (which must have occurred after the first interview with certain Wiradjuri), but not the big one, actual Aboriginal descent.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 14 August 2023 3:35:45 PM
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Foxy, it is the ultimate hope of aboriginal sovereignty, which they believe might take 20 years or more.
Posted by Josephus, Monday, 14 August 2023 3:48:38 PM
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What does Dr Gordon Reid's claim to be of
Aboriginal ancestry have to do with the
Voice to Parliament?

Please explain.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 14 August 2023 4:02:42 PM
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Dear Josephus,

What do you know about Aboriginal Sovereignty and
what their aims are? Please provide us with some evidence
as you appear incapable in understanding even the basics
of the Voice to Parliament.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 14 August 2023 4:06:12 PM
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As I recalled on a previous thread, ever since Cook landed in Botany Bay, home of the Eora people, in 1770, the British colonisers considered that Australia was uninhabited, by virtue of the doctrine of terra nullius.

But it was not because they ignored the existence of the Aboriginal peoples, it was because they simply discounted them as a species of subhuman primates that had not attained the degree of civilisation that warranted consideration of their attendant rights. They were deemed part of the local flora and fauna, indigenous animals. But as a number of reputable anthropologists subsequently pointed out, this was largely due to their ignorance of the intricacies of the Aboriginal culture and lifestyle.

That was 253 years ago now and we are about to be asked to vote on whether we should acknowledge their existence in our constitution and allow them to have a say in laws concerning them.

Today, it is estimated that 10% of Indigenous Australians have already attained or are studying for a bachelor's university degree or above (compared to 51% of the total Australian population).

A national referendum is planned sometime before the end of this year. The precise terms of the referendum have not yet been published and probably won’t be before the ballot papers are in hand.

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(Continued …)

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Posted by Banjo Paterson, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 1:09:59 AM
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