In regards to the CSIRO and The Washington Post- I trust neither as I suspect they have become corrupted as are Australian Universities. The Washington Post is owned by Jeff Bezos as I understand and was complicit in the Ukrainian Euromaiden coup.

The CSIRO seems to have become very woke and detached from the local Australian people that it was originally constructed for- just like the universities. It was once perhaps a great organisation.

Bezza,

I wouldn't know what Antonio Guterres was campaigning for 30 years ago, you seem to think you do, all good and well. As for being a "fool" I doubt that, the man is head of the UN, but then those of the hard right believe the UN is some Commie plot, hell bent on destroying the good matured Capitalism of the West, I'm not so sure about that either. Yes lets apply the good old tried and tested, nothing to see here nonsense, when we don't don't want to believe what before our eyes. Those fires, nothing more than a stray box of matches, and as for floods, a burst water pipe somewhere. Now who is the fool?

"mhaze on another thread was quick to claim Aboriginal people were clubbing each other to death in massive inter tribal wars on 30 July 12023BC, but when evidence is presented that doesn't fit his far right extreme narrative he yells "CONSPIRACY"!"

Neither of those things are true.

You can always tell when Paul realises he's out of his depth...he releases the inner 5 yr old.

As to "massive inter tribal wars" Paul himself offered proof of that when he showed us the reports from Moreton Bay.

Talking about the CSIRO:

In case we dismiss intervention in science as a thing
of the past we need to be aware that on issues which
require solutions that are likely to harm vested
economic and political interests censorship very much
exists today.

For example, in Australia in 2006, leading climatologists
with the country's pre-eminent public research organisation,
CSIRO were forbidden by the organisation's management from
publicly discussing the implications of climate change.

Management was acting on behalf of government. And Australia
is one of the standout countries in terms of human development
status. It is not corrupt, its science is world class.

None of this matters. In 2006, the Australian Government's
position was to cast doubt on global warming and refuse to
enter into UN agreements such as the Kyoto Protocol.

With the release of the Stern Report on climate change the
Australian Government's position had changed - yet the
PM remained half-hearted about a commitment to counter
global warming. Little has changed for some people when
ignorance and vested interests are confronted by scientific
facts.

New ideas, instead of being welcomed for the opportunities
they open up for the improvement of the human lot
are considered as threats by those who are comfortable in
their ideologies.

"In regards to the CSIRO and The Washington Post- I trust neither as I suspect they have become corrupted...."

Yep, not just them but large parts of the media and the science fraternity. The Washington Post has been shown to have acted without the slightest regard for the truth in issues like Covid, the so-called vaccines, the Steele dossier and the Kavanaugh witch-hunt.

The CSIRO was of course outed as regards temperature manipulation through the Rutherglen database debacle.

We now know that the science community outright lied about the vaccines, the original of the WuFlu and the effects of lockdowns.

Now we have the famed science magazine Lancet outed for fudging data to try to hide the fact that warmer temperatures result in less deaths than cold temperatures. This has been known for decades but still the climate fraternity try to portray the opposite in deference to the climate gods.

http://co2coalition.org/2023/07/26/the-lancets-graphical-deception-too-common/

The Washington Post ranks in the top five news
brands.

Many will remember its coverage of the Watergate
scandals in the 1970s led by reporter Carl Bernstein
and Bob Woodward.

And of course its recent coverages of the Trump fiascos.

As for CSIRO?

Public good research has been the absolute foundation of
what the CSIRO has been doing over its long history.
Of course it needs money to continue its work and to attract
top scientists and students. Unfortunately, certain governments
in the past with their severe cuts to funding, especially on
climate-based research CSIRO's reputation as being world class
is beginning to suffer.

Hopefully, this will be rectified by new governments and will once
again be able to attract top scientists and students.
Cuts to climate research - then what else follows?

So sad really.