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The Forum > General Discussion > Do you need to be sophisticated? The Dark Emu debate continues.

Do you need to be sophisticated? The Dark Emu debate continues.

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"We shall have to wait and see - if decent Australians will prevail."

There you go again with you micro-snippy-aggressions.
Are you implying that anyone who doesn't support the yes vote is not a decent person?
You may as well just say anyone who doesn't vote yes is a sub-human piece of crap?

This 'voice' thing is as ill thought out as the governments COVID policies.
As half-assed as putting infected in hotels in the middle of all our capital cities where the rooms have shared ventilation.

They don't even want to show us the fine print until it passes,
Which is about as dodgy as not testing the vaccines for side effects until everyone's had the jab.

The policy has been in waiting for 200+ years.
There's a proper way of going about things, and this isn't it.
There's no need for a knee-jerk policy pushed through in a hurry because it the current PM's pet policy.
Both sides of politics don't even agree, that says "We're not in agreement, and we're not ready yet"
If it takes longer to get it right, then no big deal.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 10 August 2023 12:30:09 PM
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The Australian Government on the 2020 National Agreement
on Closing the Gap acknowledged that Indigenous people
continue to face entrenched disadvantage and ongoing
institutional racism. We're told that:

This racism extends beyond racist attacks by other Australians
and is often felt in institutional settings such as our
justice system, healthcare system, and educational facilities.
More than half of Indigenous Australians reported facing
discrimination in educational institutions.

Institutional racism limits access to essential resources and
services, denying individuals opportunities and worsening
cycles of disadvantage. The solutions to many of the complex
problems facing Indigenous communities today already exist
but these communities don't have the power to change policy
to implement them.

That is why it is important for these communities to have a
Voice to Parliament.

And yes, any decent Australian will understand that Indigenous
Australians are among the most disadvantaged in this country
and to give them a Voice to be heard is way past due. Over
200 years of waiting to be heard - is long enough.

To paraphrase journalist Nikki Savva - of course not everyone
who votes NO is a racist but every racist will vote NO.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 10 August 2023 2:00:53 PM
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Foxy forgot to mention many racists will vote Yes, because they hate white colonial rule and laws. She believes the only racists are white followers of Murdock and indecent hicks.
Posted by Josephus, Thursday, 10 August 2023 3:01:17 PM
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Dear Armchair Critic,

The question for me is I would have to be the biggest offender of this egrigious crime yet you are going after Foxy. Why?

I am constantly telling people to put a sock in it, to drop it, to nick off or a whole bunch of other dismissive quotes. Even in this thread I've told mhaze to 'give it away'.

Yet you haven't said boo. Why is that? I would be disappointed if it is just a boring sexist thing.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Thursday, 10 August 2023 4:37:27 PM
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For me, the Voice is about the following:

"The Voice is about advice.
It will urge Australians to vote YES to help close the gap
on Indigenous disadvantage, promising an Indigenous advisory
body will help Government to make better decisions, secure
better results and delivering value for money."

"A Voice will be able to raise concerns about issues that
affect First Nations people and give them a say on how to
address them. They should be the owners of their own
destiny and if they have a Voice to Parliament they will
have a say on stuff that impacts on them.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 11 August 2023 9:31:02 AM
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Dear Steele,

I was taught to believe that "You are not entitled to
your opinion. You are entitled to your INFORMED
opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant."
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 11 August 2023 10:07:52 AM
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