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The Forum > General Discussion > Do you need to be sophisticated? The Dark Emu debate continues.

Do you need to be sophisticated? The Dark Emu debate continues.

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Dear Paul,

It is going to cut deep if the NO vote wins out.
It will set Indigenous relations back to a time that
does not bear thinking about. But we have got to remain
positive. We need to continue to bridge the gap and
keep on explaining to people what the Voice is about.
There's so much misinformation out there.

We need to celebrate this country's Indigenous history.

We are the custodians of the oldest living continuous
culture - we should be as a nation enormously proud of
that. Lets keep on explaining - we just may get through.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 12 August 2023 4:31:20 PM
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Hi Foxy,

I would be in favour of the government releasing some kind of draft legislation that it has in mind, regarding a Voice to Parliament, as highly unusual as that would be when it comes to referendum, its never been done before, but it may dampen the powder of some of the more radical nonsense coming from the far right with their 'No' campaign of lies and deception. Of course there is nothing that will placate the bigoted racists, as their agenda is one of hate for Aboriginals, and they will not entertain an thoughts of recognition or equality, to them; "darkie needs to know his place, in their white world of privilege".
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 12 August 2023 4:57:04 PM
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Dear Foxy,

If the nos have it, be assured that the sky wont fall and the Uluru statement will be the same length that it always has been.

For me, a no vote will be a comfort that the majority of Australians value equality and understand its importance in a democracy, or at least are smart enough not to be bullied by emotive and illogical argument.
Posted by Fester, Saturday, 12 August 2023 5:07:36 PM
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Dear Paul,

"The lobby groups campaigning to sink the Indigenous Voice
to Parliament Referendum have deep links to a number of
conservative Christian organisations and consultancies, a
Guardian investigation can reveal." There's more at the
following:

http://theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/jul/13/indigenous-voice-no-campaigns-deep-links-to-conservative-christian-politics
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 12 August 2023 5:38:13 PM
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Dear Fester,

If the NO campaigners win - it means that they don't
believe in equality or democracy. They've done it to
shore up leadership positions, and to just have some
ground to fight on. They're also done it to help raise
funds for themselves. Their hope that this is a
pathway to victory is as Andrew Gee has pointed out -
a bankrupt one. Decade of campaigning and advocacy by
our Indigenous people will have a huge impact on the
Coalition at the ballot box.

Why do you think so many members of the Coalition have
switched sides?

You should do the same if you truly believe in equality
because the truth is the Indigenous people are among
the most disadvantaged in the country. You should not
allow yourself to be swayed against them and be used as
a weapon politically. You're surely better than that.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 12 August 2023 5:48:04 PM
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Dear Foxy,

I do believe in equality and democracy. If I believed that the voice upheld those values I would support it. My problem is accepting that you can make people equal by making them unequal. That seems all so 1984.

"Why do you think so many members of the Coalition have
switched sides?"

That sounds a little optimistic given the way the polls have been traveling. I have heard of two, but people should make decisions according to their own beliefs.

"If the NO campaigners win - it means that they don't
believe in equality or democracy. "

Making an individual decision is always preferable to being told what to say or do, and voting yes or no is no reason to label people good or bad.
Posted by Fester, Saturday, 12 August 2023 7:16:33 PM
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