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The Forum > General Discussion > Do you need to be sophisticated? The Dark Emu debate continues.

Do you need to be sophisticated? The Dark Emu debate continues.

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Dear Shadow Minister,

They were government agencies under government control.
The Voice will be Indigenous people speaking directly about
things that work on the ground in their communities. They
will not be told what works best for them - they will advise
on what needs to be done. This will mean fewer misdirected
resources and real results for Indigenous Australians.

Surely that's not hard to understand?
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 8 August 2023 9:13:49 AM
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Get the facts right, it will be the States that introduce TREATY and REPATRIATIONS as the States exist on aboriginal Land, and Australia is a Federation of States. Some states have already begun putting in place legislation, laws that govern aboriginal tribal lands, waterways, and beaches. Where Native Title exists or is identified these laws will apply. Australia Post is now referring to areas with aboriginal identification titles, and SBS and the ABC always recognize country. That is why we have welcome to Country identified in numerous events.

I watched a program by Ernie Dingo and one of his staff interviewed an elder in the Riverina who had been given custody and management of a farm because his grandmother was aboriginal, he was voting Yes yet he had no needs of education, housing, or employment. THE VOICE IS A FRAUD IF IT IS FOR HOUSING, HEALTH< AND EDUCATION.

It is a deception to smoke screen the real agenda.
Posted by Josephus, Tuesday, 8 August 2023 10:19:11 AM
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Dear Josephus,

Please don't deal with hypotheticals - and what may
or may not happen in the future. All you are being
asked to do in this referendum is quite simple.
The question is simple and so is your answer - YES or
NO.

Stop your attempts at fear-mongering. It's most
unbecoming. Deal with facts not conjectures and
your own personal biases.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 8 August 2023 10:29:27 AM
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Dear Fester,

«That population is an issue of personal liberty ultimately means that it is an issue for individuals, not governments, which was why I included that link.»

Sure it is, but what can individuals do when governments encourage procreation? Governments constantly need cannon-fodder and economic-fodder to perpetuate their power, so if individuals overall become "too slack" in procreating then they will start severe sanctions against them. Historically that's why they originally sent the women home to make babies and excluded them from public life. One obvious sanction can be "no procreation --> no sex". Not just Iran and Afghanistan - even the U.S.A. is starting to go this way in regard to abortions. Alternately, governments can construct baby-farms. China will have no moral barriers to implement either.

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Dear Mhaze,

«The greatest resource on the planet is the human brain. Having less of that resource is an existential threat to our survival.»

This human brain is capable of elevating us spiritually, yet it is being wasted on struggling for mere survival. What's the point in survival if we don't get anywhere. Besides, this obsession with survival is futile because no matter how hard we try, sooner or later everyone will die anyway, including humanity itself.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 8 August 2023 2:09:54 PM
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"Stop your attempts at fear-mongering. It's most unbecoming."

- Stop being a control freak Foxy.
You have no right to dictate what others should think or say.

"The question is simple and so is your answer - YES or NO."
- NO

If Josephus wants to 'deal with hypotheticals' or 'fearmonger'
- Then that is his right to do so and others can judge for themselves.

Since when did you become the forum moderator?
Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 8 August 2023 2:19:07 PM
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Dear Foxy,

«The question is simple and so is your answer - YES or NO.»

My answer is clearly NO.

Since I don't want the commonwealth of Australia, its government or its constitution to even exist, I certainly don't want to strengthen them further by one extra mandatory function, which would only make them even more difficult to dismantle.

As for aboriginals, why would any true-blooded aboriginal person come and grovel before the regime which conquered his land by force? That "Voice" could only represent spineless and shameless assimilated aboriginals who are now just after material benefits.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 8 August 2023 2:51:24 PM
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