The Forum > General Discussion > Do you need to be sophisticated? The Dark Emu debate continues.
Do you need to be sophisticated? The Dark Emu debate continues.
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Posted by mhaze, Saturday, 29 July 2023 4:37:08 PM
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"Like many dispossessed and colonised people around the
world Aboriginal communities around Australia face enormous social problems including poverty, homelessness, high rates of incarceration and poor health." "In communities where the social fabric has unravelled, issues like violence and substance abuse are rife." "Of course the domiant narrative echoing the ethnocentrism of colonial thinking is that Aboriginal culture is violent and uncivilized." "The current social problems that are the result of dispossession and marginalisation and inter-generational trauma deflects any attention away from taking pride in Aboriginal heritage and culture - which makes it hard to achieve success in other ways - if you're consistently told you are primitive, violent, and no good." "Governments in the past have always been quick to use rhetoric that Indigenous culture is part of the problem not part of the solution." "However what is not advertised is that when Indigenous culture is strong, more positive outcomes do come out for Indigenous communities." "This has been shown particularly in the area of education where progress such as - "Stronger, Smarter "approach developed by Indigenous educator Chris Sarra and programs for young Indigenous men - such as Shane Phillips "Tribal Warrior" - have succeeded. A connection with culture and a pride in heritage works in many ways." "What is necessary is for a Western lens to put a new lens on Australian Aboriginal culture and and perhaps this can assist the rest of the country to see what Aboriginal people have seen all along." This was taken from: http://theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/sep/22/indigenous-australians-know-were-the-oldest-living-culture-its-our-dreamtime Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 29 July 2023 4:51:52 PM
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Sorry - excuse my typo again: http://theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/sep/22/indigenous-australians-know-were-the-oldest-living-culture-its-in-our-dreamtime Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 29 July 2023 5:40:27 PM
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Hi Foxy,
Hear, hear, absolutely spot on. I have seen it first hand with my wife's extended family in Aotearoa, in the Maori (90%) towns up north, the social and economic problems that beset some, not all. What I see as the saving grace for people there is not welfare and its associated agencies, although in the here and now that's important, I see the community/whanau (family) working through what is still their strong culture to protect many in need. Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 29 July 2023 5:56:12 PM
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Dear Nathan, You asked "Do you need to be sophisticated?"
The Dark Emu debate continues." The link I just gave from The Guardian explains quite well: "The problem has always been, Europeans often did not know what they were looking at when observing Indigenous people in their culture." "Often blinded by their confident belief in their own racial superiority and their arrogant perception of the inferiority of other races - it seemed impossible that other cultures could have any insights to offer." "In his book - "The Biggest Estate on Earth" Bill Gammage deconstructs the sketches and paintings that the first colonists made of the landscape of the Sydney basin and what is revealed is not wild bushland but carefully farmed landscapes including tracts of land cleared specifically for luring grazing animals." "Pascoe identifies other aspects of Aboriginal cultural practices - sophisticated fishing practices, to the establishment of permanent structures." But that's not all. They are not all lost. There continues to be: "A heavy interest in the traditional practices of fire burning, which ig gaining a broader consideration for pastoralists, conservationists, and other interested parties who are starting to understand that perhaps a culture that has lived on a land for around 60,000 years just might know a thing or two about how to maintain its delicate ecosystems." Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 29 July 2023 5:58:52 PM
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Dear Paul,
Bravo to your wife and her family, and the Maori culture. If only Australia was as advanced. I'm praying and hoping that the Australian people will finally see what needs to be done to correct things because so far nothing else has worked. Voting YES for the Voice to Parliament is so important. And anyone who votes no - as a former PM once said - "Is a bum!"" Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 29 July 2023 6:05:33 PM
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Yes...competing statistics. But the information in the "Ampe Akelyernemane Meke Mekarle" report is rather compelling. Compelling enough that both sides of politics found it necessary to act. But, of course, we do have people who later wanted to re-write the information in the name of politics as opposed to the aims of helping the children themselves. As I said, for some, the welfare of the aboriginal women and kids runs a distant second to the politics.