Dear Fester,

Sorry mate but that was an utterly pissweak answer.

By your reasoning Howard's Intervention was an utter perversion of democracy but you have studiously ignored it in your response.

How about you address it.

Dear Steele,

The equal status of people in a nation has a very long and hard fought history, and is still not available to many people in the world. Yet you would throw out that principle on the basis of what you consider to be an inappropriate and unjust intervention.

Howard intervened because he felt that the problems in those communities were so extreme that they warranted extreme measures. You might note that all the people in those communities had a vote which counted the same as other Australians.

Was it an ideal intervention? Probably not, but what is the current PM's interest in solving problems? Dutton claimed that he was informed of sexual abuse of children in indigenous communities by health workers some months ago. For this he was accused of criminal conduct for not reporting the abuse. Dutton responded that the health workers also claimed that they had given the same information to Albanese earlier. Albanese denied this claim. Hmmm. If Albanese was informed as claimed, then a guy who manages child sexual abuse claims by brushing them under the carpet, as far as I can see, now wants to "solve the problem" by perverting a foundation of democracy. Wonderful!

Look Steele, if you are so worried about the violation of peoples rights, then why not push for something that directly addresses the problem such as a charter of human rights that would apply to all people in Australia, not just indigenous Australians? Why feel that you have to throw away a principle that took many centuries and the sacrifice of countless lives to establish? Obviously I value the privilege more than you do.

Dear Fester,

Howard went hard on the Intervention because he had an election just around the corner. The so called child abuse statistics were found to be quite overblown and matched socio-economic demographics reasonably closely.

But leaving that aside you keep studiously ignoring the bleeding obvious.

You say: "Why feel that you have to throw away a principle that took many centuries and the sacrifice of countless lives to establish?"

What you claim is established may well be the case for the rest of us, but for Indigenous people the race powers in the Constitution call that out as a ignorant lie.

And you are defending that myth.

I find it odd that there are posters on here from the extreme right, a hard line Anglo White minority, who have demonstrated their racism towards Aboriginal people in the past, but now put themselves up as champions of "equality" and "opportunity" for the said Aboriginals. When did these leopards change their spots?

Paul, how is Warren Mundine self-interested to promote the No vote? He believes it will undermine social unity of the Nation and be exploited by radicals. You tell us how it will improve remote communities more than is currently performed by Government with eleven elected aboriginal members?

Disadvantaged communities have not promoted the Voice, it is pushed by those who have prospered in our society and want power over the land, waters, and beaches. The result will be the same as the WA cultural laws, farmers not able to fence or plant trees without permits.
http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=wa+cultural+heritage+laws&docid=603548604268028864&mid=CD05EDC3EE01D861686DCD05EDC3EE01D861686D&view=detail&FORM=VIRE

Fester

Good one. However, there is no point in arguing the toss with Leftists, particularly those who only occasionally drag themselves out of their caves to snarl and grunt.

Albanese is making a real feast of race and culture; mainly with the Voice at the moment, doing his best to bring in a reversal of Boer-like apartheid.

The Left is definitely hung up on race and culture, the best way to divide and conquer in the totalitarian rule book. Multiculturalism and now blatant racism via the Voice and multiculturalism.

Speaking of multiculturalism, it looks if that ghastly and evil monstrosity is going to bite them on the bum.

Last night, I watched a man now an Australian citizen, but originally from Jordan, reporting on a movement of diverse immigrant Australians and their displeasure at the Voice which will single out one race or group of people, when they have always been told that everyone in Australia is equal, no matter what their race or culture; we are all Australians.

So disappointed are these people that they are thinking about making their own demands for their own 'voice'.

As a anti-multulturalist, I can't help saying, "told you so".

The evil Albanese has no idea what his racist Voice is doing, and what it will do if it gets in.

As an aside, the spokesman for the group getting stirred up, was told by a reporter for SBS, that he would be a racist if he voted NO to the Voice, and that he should vote yes because he should be 'grateful that he was allowed to come here to live'!

This filthy attempt by Albanese to divide Australia is only the beginning. Albanese has brought our country closer to a Communist dictatorship than it has ever been. He is now lying that he doesn't support treaties and reparations (he even had the Tshirt saying that he did support them, and he previously said that he wanted the Uluru Statement, in full, to prevail in Australia.

Now, he is working on a law that will crush freedom of speech on social media.