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The Forum > General Discussion > Do you need to be sophisticated? The Dark Emu debate continues.

Do you need to be sophisticated? The Dark Emu debate continues.

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Foxy, my posts are not my words, but the words reported of Marcia Langton and co.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12338519/Marcia-Langton-Voice-compensation-stolen-land.html
You must debunk Professor Langton not me. Try it, I'll listen!

They want free housing, free education, and employment in the Government, all paid for by rent.
Posted by Josephus, Sunday, 30 July 2023 3:35:29 PM
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"Warren Mundine is a failed political strategist."

Whose views can, apparently, be ignored because they're 'inconvenient'.
Posted by mhaze, Sunday, 30 July 2023 4:42:28 PM
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Dear mhaze,

No. Wrong again. - Mundine's views are self-serving.
Always have been.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 30 July 2023 5:05:51 PM
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Dear mhaze,

Please don't make things up. This isn't a case of 'competing statistics' at all.

The original report was quite clear: “as we have already noted, it is a very important point and one which we have made during the course of many of our public discussions of the issues that the problems do not just relate to Aboriginal communities. The number of perpetrators is small and there are some communities, it must be thought, where there are no problems at all.”

Further they acknowledged that with all the indices for the risk of child abuse are present in many indigenous communities, mainly “Family dysfunctionality, as a catch-all phrase, reflects and encompasses problems of alcohol and drug abuse, poverty, housing shortages, unemployment and the like.” which are there in spades so “it would be it would be remarkable if there was not, given the similar and significant problems that exist elsewhere in Australia and abroad.”

In its two main recommendations the report expressly said: “It is critical that both governments commit to genuine consultation with Aboriginal people in designing initiatives for Aboriginal communities.”

Howard did nothing in that regard in the 6 days after the report came out before he kicked off the Intervention legislation.

That is why the Voice is needed.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Sunday, 30 July 2023 5:10:08 PM
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There's not a single human on this planet nor was or will ever be who is not ignorant of something !
Just look where the highly educated have gotten our society to. There are many uneducated who have done more for bettering society than most of the educated experts could ever dream of being able to do.
Unsophisticated billions haven't polluted our planet, thousands of sophisticated people have !
Posted by Indyvidual, Sunday, 30 July 2023 6:54:09 PM
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SR wrote: "Please don't make things up. This isn't a case of 'competing statistics' at all."

Well it is. The 'Sacred Children report' had plenty of data as to the problems in these communities. They readily acknowledged that the data was not conclusive in that little work had been done to isolate problem areas.

I know, SR, that you are trying very hard to not notice this, but at the time the evidence was sufficiently dire and compelling that a Labor NT government was moved to urgent action to address the problems in their aboriginal communities and the Federal Labor opposition was so convinced by the need for action that they fully supported Howard's moves including the moves on the Racial Discrimination Act.

That you want to re-write history from a different perspective 2 decades later is rather pathetic.
Posted by mhaze, Monday, 31 July 2023 9:27:10 AM
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