Jose,

Going on 67 MUndine is running out of time to make a political impact. Having some knowledge on the subject, its my opinion he was treated poorly by Labor in pre-selections, and the Senate ticket position in 2004. Now with the Liberal Party after a period as one of those Aboriginal elites, you and others here like to pan, "Forbes" puts Mundine's wealth at $5 million". He was booted by Turnbull from the "Indigenous Advisory Council" in 2017, as it was nothing more than a jobs for the boys outfit of yes men set up by Abbott. Now Mundine is hoping for a plum Liberal seat in parliament, should he be the successful destroyer of "Labor's Voice" that is. If he was a Labor MP, I'm sure his position on The Voice would be somewhat different.

Dear Steele,

"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character."

I don't think that the Voice is congruous with that hope.

When the white Australia policy was in force, people thought that it had nothing to do with racism and was simply a measure to protect the rights and condition of Australian citizens. Of course, the nasty consequence of this is that people might start thinking it okay to treat people by their privilege rather than their need, such as happened in Penang:

https://penang.fandom.com/wiki/Japanese_Invasion_of_Penang

SR,

The child abuse statistics were horrific as were the DV etc. While there is some correlation with socioeconomic status, this did not come close to explaining all the differences.

Howard's actions were no less undemocratic than Labor's banning of alcohol in Alice, all of which have prevented many murders assaults and abuses of children.

The voice however remedies nothing and creates a new apartheid.

Despite what SR asserts about Howard's intervention policy, things were rather different in the real world.

Following the release of the "Ampe Akelyernemane Meke Mekarle" report, it was clear that the situation for native children in the NT was dire and, despite years of failed policy initiatives, becoming more dire. The timing had nought to do with election issues.

The need for action was so obvious that even the Labor Party supported the policy. Despite SR's fixation on the nullification of the Racial Discrimination Act to implement the policy (although quite why he's fixated on it remains a mystery), again the ALP supported that move and indeed, after Rudd won the subsequent election, continued the policy for a further three years.

As we've seen over many aboriginal issues, the actual welfare of aboriginal people, especially the at-risk kids, runs a distant second to the politics of the aboriginal issue. As I've shown in other threads, traditional aboriginal society was highly misogynistic with women and children having few if any rights or status within the tribe. That carries over into the present day, especially among the less integrated groups. Hard-line intervention policy to break the grip of millennial old practices is a policy that, had it been continued, may have borne fruit. Alas, politics won out.

" Noel Pearson......He's one of money giving the facts and telling the truth."

Quite the Freudian slip there Foxy! </grin>

Dear mhaze,

I went on to explain in the following link.
It wasn't a slip. I just did not do a good
job explaining in the first round. So I
tried to follow it up with the link.

For me this entire issue of our First People
is a highly emotional one. I know - how can I
judge anything when I have been so privileged
all of my life? Living in my own comfortable
bubble. Who am I to judge anyone?

But when I read links like the following:

http://bbc.com/news/world-australia-53436225

I just can't understand the Nay sayers and why
we can't shift resources from policing and prisons
and towards empowering Aboriginal people to make
decisions that affect their communities?