Former US President Donald Trump's trial into his
handling of classified documents is set for May 2024.

It's one of several criminal and civil cases he faces
as he runs for president. He faces 37 charges including
30 violations of the Espionage Act over allegations he
stored dozens of classified documents at his Florida
Resort and refused to return them to the FBI and the
National Archives.

What is this case really all about?

The former President according to their Constitution can still run
for office, even from jail. And these charges against him
may not stick. So why all this fuss? Is it desperation
on behalf of the Democrats to ensure that Trump
won't get elected?

Putting a former president on trial - is it a good precedent
to set?

Your thoughts please?

Yes Foxy, they are terrified of him. They know they can't beat him in a fair election, & are worried they will be unable to get away with enough cheating to win.

At the same time they are also terrified that he will come after the swamp much harder than last time, after the way they have tried to get him this time. So many would end up in jail, they would have no party left.

I doubt he would survive an election campaign.

Dear Hassie,

Thanks for that. I have to admit that I don't understand
what's happening in the US with the former President.

Foxy, I think it is wonderful that they are charging Trump. Personally I would like to see more politicians prosecuted. Especially here in Australia after Robodebt. And then of course there is Boris in the UK.

According to Brookings Institution in the US:

"For some, the decision to prosecute Donald Trump is easy.
No one is above the law, including the former President and
the decision to prosecute should be based on evidence."

"But for others, prosecuting a former President of the US,
whose followers maintain an almost cult-like loyalty to him
is a decision with enormous consequences."

"Would a successful prosecution and possibly even jail time
make Donald Trump a martyr and make worse the ugly divisions
he's launched on the country?"

"Prosecution would take place under the Biden administrations
Justice Department which would give birth even more to
conspiracy theorists."

"Is the end game really to put the guy in jail, or is it
to make sure Trump is never within 1,000 feet of the presidency
again?"

"Prosecuting Trump is not a simple matter of determining
whether the evidence is there. It's a question embedded in the
larger issue of how to restore and defend American democracy."

"Is Trump fit for office?"

"In an ideal world voters would follow with the final word."

First of all, Trump was President, he was Commander in Chief.
All those documents were written specifically FOR HIS BENEFIT as Commander in Chief,
- As well as the fact he had the power to declassify ANYTHING, and also pardon himself.

Yes it is a witch hunt by the Democratic Party, specifically to stop Trump running again for President, and also to prevent Biden from facing allegations of wrongdoing and prosecution himself, in regards to events prior to even becoming President.

A lot of terrible injustices have occurred.
Biden should not have been President in the first place.
The FBI knew he was engaged in corrupt activities and kept it from Trump and the US public, and censored social media organisations under the cover of 'Russian disinformation', and instead of following Trumps directions to investigate Biden and Burisma, the FBI indicted Trump himself for asking about it, when they themselves had an obligation to follow the allegations up themselves, and not just the word of a whistleblower inside Burisma, but audio files of Biden coercing / bribing related individuals and verifiable by the Hunter Biden laptop which was in their own possession.

And this isn't so much about Biden corruption, it's even worse.
It's about collusion of an intelligence agency to manipulate the results of the 2020 election and impeach a sitting President, in regards to allegations that they knew and had verifiable proof was true.

Not to mention all the things they were doing in the years prior.
Wish to find out more? Watch this:

MASSIVE FBI CORRUPTION REVEALED IN THE HUNTER BIDEN SCANDAL
http://www.youtube.com/live/aw5rzezyeYE?feature=share

And whether you like Trump or not is besides the point.
Biden was known to be corrupt prior to the election, and the FBI took an active role in an effort to remove a sitting President and install a known corrupt Biden in his place.

[Cont.]
"Would a successful prosecution and possibly even jail time
make Donald Trump a martyr and make worse the ugly divisions
he's launched on the country?"

Donald Trump did not launch ugly divisions on the country.
Those divisions within the country were already there and are part an parcel of the Democratic party's identity based / race-based platform.

What Donald Trump did was to challenge the Deep State / Military Industrial Complex / Washington intelligence and bureaucratic class who colluded against him and actively undermined him during his Presidency.
Donald Trump also posed a risk to NATO and US foreign policy makers; and also including US senators from both parties (i.e 'The Uniparty')

A successful Trump prosecution in the face of all the evidence against his opponents could alternatively lead to a civil war.

Hillary had a private server deliberately kept from Congressional oversight that many foreigners had accessed but she was never even charged with a crime, by the same bias investigators.

There's no doubt whatsoever it's a witch hunt with political aims.
The US has deep problems with a corrupt political class.

The problem of Trump is that he's a threat to many on the Republican side as well.

"Is Trump fit for office?"
- Biden doesn't even know what year it is.
He can't speak for 5 minutes without making some moronic gaffe, trails off and rambles incoherent crap time and time again.
He'll have no chance in a debate with Trump or RFK Jr with his continued cognitive decline, and past corruption now exposed.

I'm not sure how the Democratic Party will find a way out of this mess, especially with RFK Jr running himself, but with a corrupt bureaucratic class and ability to censor or influence the media anything is possible.

If 'The Donald' is in jail, maybe his mate President Putin can pardon him in exchange for Ukraine, seems reasonable.

A few more thoughts:

If Joe Biden really wants to deliver on his promise
to heal the country he could do it with one-action -
Pardon Donald Trump.

Having Trump go on trial is setting a bad precedent which
could eventually lead to Presidents of both parties going
after their political enemies.

Pardoning Trump would also defang him and his claims
that the Biden Administration "weaponized against me," from
the very beginning, and more.

Keeping Biden's promise of healing the nation alive - would
be a step in the right direction.

After the 2020 election, when asked what Trump's legacy would be, I opined he would be remembered as the last democratically elected leader of a once great democracy.

Since then I've seen no reason to change my opinion.

Third world banana republics lock up their political opponents. Trump is being tied up in frivolous 'crimes' in order to stop him running again. They (the Democrats) are terrified that he'll be so popular he'll get more votes than they can fabricate. There is only so much cheating you can do before it becomes obvious to even your most loyal supporters.

Just two issues (and there are dozens of them) show just how corrupt and partisan the US 'justice' system has become:

The Hunter laptop. We now know that the laptop was in FBI hands a full year before it was released to the public. We know that the FBI already knew it was authentically Hunter's. Yet instead of acting on it, they hide it from all and sundry, including the president (Trump) and when they couldn't hide it any longer they leant on a compliant media to actively censor it. If that happened in any other country in the world, the US would be talking about sanctioning that country for violations of the rules of democracy.

2. Trump is charged with holding classified documents. His home was raided to recover them. Yet we know that the Obamessiah has/had classified documents without anyone raising a peep. And we know that Biden had classified documents in several locations that were way less secure than Trump's holdings. Crickets there also. We even know that Pence had classified documents. Crickets. We are told that Trump must be charged because no one is above the law. Except of course all of Trump's political opponents.

"After the 2020 election, when asked what Trump's legacy would be, I (mhaze) opined he would be remembered as the last democratically elected leader of a once great democracy."

I would expect nothing less from a devout Trumpster, and sycophantic American toady! Thank you mhaze. America is a corrupt joke, with an incompetent old fool as the so called President, with an criminal dill brain waiting in the wings to once more assume the top job!

Millions will see Trump's prosecution as illegitimate
and any conviction as unjust. This will further erode
public confidence in the American judicial system and the
principle of equal justice under law.

There is no evidence of Trump's passing classified
information to any foreign governments or intelligence
services.

According to The Washington Post - there's another risk -
Trump might be acquitted. All it takes is one juror and
Trump walks.

If that happens then the Justice Department will have
single-handedly handed the Presidency to Donald Trump.
We're asked to consider that implication for the US
Government and political system.

Biden could easily fix this problem by pardoning Trump.

mhaze,
It's not just the Hunter Biden laptop on it's own.
It's the fact the FBI already had a whistleblower inside Burisma and allegations of corruption including voice recordings of Biden himself, and that these allegations of Biden's corruption were provable from the data on Hunters laptop.

And it's not just the US 'justice' system.
They're just a part of the web of people known as the Deep State.

Foxy,
"Millions will see Trump's prosecution as illegitimate and any conviction as unjust."

In many ways it would be unjust.
As mhaze has pointed out, Trumps opponents aren't prosecuted when they've commit the same offenses.
- That makes the motive for Trump being charged political in nature, not criminal.
FYI, they found classified documents left unsecured in Bidens car, amongst other places.
Secondly, as discussed above, the FBI knew of Bidens corruption prior to the last election, and they forced social media companies to censor the story, to influence the mid term election in Biden's favour.

So takeaways are Biden should never have been running for office, because he was embroiled in corrupt foreign business and political dealings which was already known to the FBI at that time;
Secondly, that means that Trump should still be Commander in Chief.

"Having Trump go on trial is setting a bad precedent which
could eventually lead to Presidents of both parties going
after their political enemies."
- And lead to a civil war.

But honestly that would be exactly what America deserves.
- Maybe not the people though, just the corrupt leadership class.
But just like in Ukraine, it would be the innocent people who do the killing and dying.
While the leadership sits back unharmed and getting rich, and bugging out to their 4 million euro beachfront homes in Spain.

Let's be real, Trump & Biden are way too old to be POTUS no matter what the outcome re legal matters.

I think pardoning Trump if he is convicted would show that some people are above the law. Ford pardoning Nixon was wrong. One can claim that that sort of pardoning is healing because it avoids resentments and recriminations. I think the principle that no one is above the law is worth having a few resentments and recriminations. Clinton was not convicted for his misdeeds although I think he should have been. The fact that some get away with doing wrong should not be a reason for others not to be called to account.

My husband watching the news this morning tells me
that according to the American media - it was Trump's
camp that has fabricated and influenced all this fuss
in order for him to stand trial to garner sympathy
so that he'd get elected.

Crazy - right?

So Trump deliberately kept classified documents, as all past presidents have, in the hope the FBI would raid him and put him on trail Foxy?
And none of the other issues even exist?

To think that is not only crazy, but completely ridiculous.

Paul writes: "America is a corrupt joke, "

And yet remains a preferable system to those that you troll for.

AC writes: "It's not just the Hunter Biden laptop on it's own."

Yes I'm well aware that there are enormous numbers of other issues which is why I wrote "Just two issues (and there are dozens of them)."

We now see that there are claims of Biden receiving $10 million (at least!!) in bribes from Ukrainian entities. One has to wonder just how that affected the decisions about supporting Ukraine in the war.

david f writes: ". I think the principle that no one is above the law is worth having a few resentments and recriminations."

Agreed. The law being paramount is an admirable aim and one of the bedrocks of western civilisation. But that is only so if indeed the system operates as though 'no one is above the law'. When it ceases to be that, when we see that some are indeed above the law, it merely becomes a political tool. And that's what is happening at the moment in Democrat controlled America.

The Brookings Institution tells us that:

"Never before have we had a President who schemed to
overturn legitimate election results, who attacked
the press and civil servants who worked for him. Who
admired dictators, who blatantly profited from his
public office and who repeatedly lied to the public
for his own selfish purposes."

But while Trump's 4 years of rhetoric have been a shock
to democratic norms, did they inflict permanent damage
to American democracy?

The Brookings Institution gives a definite - NO.
The say that:

"The guard rails of democracy held. The institutions
designed to check autocracy are intact."

They go on to say that:

"Successful democracies are not designed for governments
composed of ethical men and women - who are only interested
in the public good. If leaders were always virtuous there
would be no need for checks and balances."

"The Foundation Fathers understood this. They designed a
system to protect minority points of view and to protect
us from leaders inclined to lie, cheat, and steal.
Fortunately we haven't had many of those in our 200-plus
years of history, which is why the Trump Presidency sent
such shock waves through a large part of the body politic."

There's more at the following link:

http://brookings.edu/articles/did-trump-damage-american-democracy/

"We now see that there are claims of Biden receiving $10 million (at least!!) in bribes from Ukrainian entities. One has to wonder just how that affected the decisions about supporting Ukraine in the war."

I think it was 5 million for Hunter and 5 million for 'The Big Guy'
They even have audio of them saying "There are so many shell companies and money transfers that it'd take 10 years to figure it all out", or something to that effect.

I watch many youTube videos, sometimes it's hard for me to remember which one it was in my watch history and find where something was stated.
Finding specific tweets in Twitter is even harder.

"I think the principle that no one is above the law is worth having a few resentments and recriminations."
- While that's correct, it doesn't change the fact that the case against Trump is politically motivated, and not necessarily about Trumps failure to surrender or declassify documents himself before he left office.

I'm sure they specifically went looking for some kind of infraction they could get him on to put him out of the race, it wouldn't have mattered what that issue was, they would've used it.
We need to be mindful of this.

They've been doing all this underhanded stuff going right back to 2015 / 2016 when they used the false Russiagate claims to get the FISA warrant to spy on the Trump election campaign in 2016.

And don't forget how Ukraine itself ties into all of this; Trump was looking for the DNC server which was moved out of his reach to the US Embassy in Kiev, and the claimed 'Russian' hackers were likely Ukrainian, not Russian.

Even many of Trumps administration spoke about disregarding his requests and undermining him.

Targeting Trump and protecting Biden
http://youtu.be/TH_kJuBRZwY

Former New York Post Editor Laughs When Detailing Censorship Of Bombshell Hunter Biden Laptop Story
http://youtu.be/M28tXX0cvvI

This whole entire mess goes back so far that the cries of 'Drain the Swamp' by Trump supporters in 2016 is even much more true today than it was then.

Further information:

An Inside Story on the web is interesting with Amy Koch,
Republican political strategist doing a great summary:

"Donald Trump is the front runner for the Republican
nomination despite criminal charges. He stunned the
political establishment and the world by winning the
race for the White House nearly 7 years ago."

"Two impeachments, a lost election and a failed
insurrection later, the 77 year old is hoping to do the
same in next year's US presidential poll."

"And, so far, he is the frontrunner to become the
Republican nominee. At the same time he's facing dozens
of criminal charges and several investigations. But will
these sink his political ambitions? Or will they help
him win more support?"

Some people keep referring to his "strength?"
Plutonium is also strong. But unpredictable - not unlike
Trump. You don't know if it going to keep you warm or
blow up your town.

It's interesting that there are only two democrats
willing to take on Joe Biden for the US Presidential
election in 2024 and there are over 12 Republicans
challenging Donald Trump.

The following link explain:

http://bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-63550237

And -

http://bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-63654388

Its unusual that anyone runs against an incumbent president but in the case of Biden there's probably two reasons why some would have a crack:

1. That he's so unpopular that the party might give him the elbow between now and then and so some want to be there when that happens

2. He falls off the twig between now and then and party will run in panic to however is at hand to avoid putting Harris up as their candidate.

As to the Republicans, the party out of power usually has a large number of hopeful - in 2016 there were 17.
Even though Trump is miles ahead in all polling, there's probably two reasons why these others want to 'hang around':

1. The deep state may yet get their man at the 247th try and knock Trump out of the race;
2. Trump hasn't announced a running mate and the these hopefuls might be able to get enough support to leverage said support toward the VP job.

"You don't know if it going to keep you warm or blow up your town."

Well, given that Trump was the least warlike president of our lifetimes, I think your town is safe. <grin>

Dear mhaze,

No doubt about it - you've got style and class.
I look forward to your posts. Keep them coming.
Please.

Hi Foxy,

I neglected to wish you a happy birthday yesterday. Mea culpa.

Although at our age do we really celebrate birthdays?

Being a mega cynic myself I rather like Dr House's take on birthdays:

"Dr. House: Ah, my birthday. Normally I'd put on a festive hat and celebrate the fact that the Earth has circled the Sun one more time; I really didn't think it was going to make it this year, but darn it if it wasn't the little planet that could all over again."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsDgtN12Yr4

Dear mhaze,

Thank You for the Birthday wish.

We celebrate lots of things in our family.
Actually any excuse for a family get-together.
Be it Birthdays, Easter, Christmas, Father's
or Mother's Day - or just lunch or dinner out
together or going to the kids sporting events.
Any excuse for a get-together.

For anyone interested - channel 13 at 8.30pm tonight,
will be screening the Comedy Central Roast of
Donald Trump.

I watched Donald Trump's Roast.

It will stay with me for a while.

Love him or hate him - it was entertaining.

Donald Trump: The Real Victim of the Russiagate Hoax Wasn't Me. It Was the American People
http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-real-victim-russiagate-hoax-wasnt-me-it-was-american-people-opinion-1816466

No surprises here. Trump has, and will continue to
deny wrong doings in all cases against him. After
all he's "the King of the Deal!" So he dismisses
all charges against him as a "political witch-hunt."
They're all - All a "hoax."

The election was stolen from him (that's not a hoax).

So, here we have - a former American President who was
perfectly fine with an unfriendly authoritarian
regime illegally interfering in the US Presidential
election to assist him by stealing documents from his
opponent.

A man who talked "America First," but
happily sided with an anti-American strongman when
it suited his interests and his ego.

How all this will end - we shall have to wait and see.
Lets not make any bets just yet.

Calling all forum Trumpster's, you know who you are. Where is Dangerous Doctor Donald's trial going to be held? Nuremberg! If not why not!

Dear Paul,

I hate to say it - but if Trump wins - he'll be absolved
of everything. Those who
lost the war were put on trial in Nuremburg. The Soviets
were allowed to continue with their draconian methods.
To this very day.

Dear Foxy,

If Trump wins he will not be absolved of everything. A court of law does not always deal justice. It is a more civilised version of trial by combat where, instead of knights, teams of people with legal skills challenge each other. It is an improvement over trial by combat, but there is no way you can always insure that justice will be done.

As is the case with Oppenheimer, appraisals and reappraisals will continue. I am glad to see Robert E. Lee has been finally recognised by many as the despicable traitor that he was in my opinion.

Dear mhaze,

You wrote: "Trump is being tied up in frivolous 'crimes' in order to stop him running again."

Rubbish.

The US system of justice is making their way through those who attempted a soft coup in that country. It has rightly been handing out stiff penalties for those involved at the Capitol Hill.

There is zero doubt about the intent to overthrow the election result and strike at the very heart of American democracy.

18 U.S. Code § 2383 - Rebellion or insurrection is quite clear: "Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States."

This is what many of the rioters have been successfully convicted on and while the conspiracy charge which Trump is facing was a little higher a bar it would seem pretty straight forward given the evidence to date.

Top that with Trump's attempt to drum up extra votes to get him over the line, and to get Pence to not certify the election results without and real evidence of fraud, all speaks to a man intent on subverting the democratic process. The issue isn't that he knowingly lied about substantial voting irregularities but that he acted upon them and incited others.

A bully who thumbed his nose at the rules and conventions. Hopefully he is toast and put away for a decent amount of time.

Dear David,

I hope that you're right and that justice will prevail.
Trump's re-election would be a travesty for not only
America - but also for those who depend on her. I don't
even want to think about the Ukraine. Putin will
probably be given what he wants.

cont'd ...

As for Robert E. Lee?

He fought for human enslavement and increased the
bloodshed of the Civil War which served men like
him. He was the face of Southern gentry.

The triumph of the South would have meant not only
the triumph of Lee, but everything he represented -
that self-defined position at the top of a violently
unequal pyramid.

Trump must not win!

"The election was stolen from him (that's not a hoax)."

Yes it was actually.
Biden was known to be corrupt by the FBI in regards to his dealings with Burisma,
And the FBI successfully manipulated public opinion by mass censorship of social media of the Hunter Biden laptop story, (claiming 'Russian disinformation') in which said laptop contained incriminating evidence that proved Bidens corruption.

The FBI knew, and sought to keep that information from the public in order to remove Trump from office.
- And their most certainly was electoral fraud, whether proven or not.
Democrats bussing immigrants around to multiple polling booths and dead people voting, untrustworthy voting machines that were tampered with, and Trump votes dumped in landfill by corrupt Trump hating blue electorates and their electoral staff...

Not that I think you're either determined or intelligent enough to investigate any of these things yourself...
If you were of that kind of inclination you'd already know this.

"The US system of justice is making their way through those who attempted a soft coup in that country."

That's bs too.

Trump is on the record telling people to act peacefully.

In contrast it was Washington DC police offices who acted as provocatuers
(probably at the direction of the FBI or others like Biden Schumer or Pelosi)
And who actively encouraged people to enter the Capitol building.

http://www.theepochtimes.com/us/prosecutor-admits-dc-police-officers-acted-as-provocateurs-at-us-capitol-on-jan-6-5148808

But don't let facts get in the way of a good lie Steelie...

There is no rational response to what you're
saying.

Dear Armchair Critic,

You must lead a fun life down all your rabbit holes. Not sure where you get the energy from frankly but you do you young fella.

Much of which you have posted is of course factually incorrect, deeply conspiratorial and would be rightly assessed by most thinking people as absurd.

But that is why it is so much fun. You really don't have to substantiate any of it instead post links to outlets like the Falun Gong affiliated, hard right, Trump supporting Epoch Times.

Whatever floats your boat Master Armchair.

Yeah righto.

I think it's kind of funny you spotted the 'epoch times' part but missed the 'Prosecutor Admits' part and all the rest of the articles contents.

It's a very selective information intake many here exhibit, but since you mentioned 'Falun Gong affiliated' and made me chuckle, I'll give you a pass.

I don't even think Trump was that great tbh.
I think he had good intentions, and wasn't what the Democrats made him out to be.
But he chose his people poorly, surrounded himself with neocons who actively undermined him.
- But he was still a million times better than Biden or Clinton or just about any Democrat.

I'm going back to my older beliefs about the whole entire political system
Vote Monty Brewster.
Vote 'None of the above'.

The question is whether or not Trump learned his lesson and whether or not he'll do better draining the swamp if he gets a second crack at it.
- That is the question on the mind of many.

Honestly, I'd be just as happy to see RFK Jnr in the Whitehouse.
He's got some courage to run after what they did to his father and uncle, and he seems a man of principle who wants to do good.

U.S. War Machine Is KILLING The U.S. Middle Class – RFK Jr.
http://youtu.be/5TlFFKpjYv0

Video I watched this morning has a former member of Trumps staff saying the US system of government has well and truly reached it's used by date, he mentions Australia too.

'Make Peace, You Fools!' - With Special Guest Col. Douglas Macgregor
http://youtu.be/UH5duGy6gbY

But still I think Blinken and Nuland would rather start a nuclear war with Russia than have Trump back in the Whitehouse, and the possibility that RFK Jr could be sitting in the Oval Office reading the JFK files seems like something they would stop at any cost too, especially since he doesn't seem to support their foreign policy / endless wars agenda.

Bidens not up to debating either of them.

Will The Donald be fashionable dress in the latest Yves Saint Laurent designed Orange Jumpsuit? Will The Donald be taking a long holiday at Guantánamo Cuba, from where he will run the United States? America is a joke, Trump is a joke , the Forum Trumpeters are all jokes! But I still love u's all!

"There is no rational response to what you're saying."

Well I didn't expect one from you, who bought into the 'Russian disinformation' lie.

Dear Armchair Critic,

You certainly are consistent.

But, you can't rationalize what is not rational
to begin with.

Lying, as Putin does, is not "truthization."

"It's what you read when you don't have to
that determines what you will be when you can't help it."
(Oscar Wilde).

Russian propaganda?

Stalin made it clear:

"A single death is a tragedy.
A million deaths is a statistic."

Putin follows this concept. He's applying it to the Ukraine
and others that he's trying to "liberate."

If Trump wins the US Presidential election -
Putin just may succeed.

Dear Armchair Critic,

Fact? Evidence?

My goodness. The only evidence provided to support the claim that police officers were acting as provocateurs was this link:

http://api.www.documentcloud.org/files/documents/23723708/902-government-memorandum-in-support-of-dibiase.pdf

But there is nothing there.

Further these were undercover agents from the electronic surveillance team who were there to fit in and not arouse suspicion. There were less than a dozen of them on the ground compared to thousands of Trump supporters. Are you seriously claiming these men provoked the storming of the Capitol?

I mean it would be a good story if it wasn't so utterly ludicrous. But whatever floats your boat mate.

"Putin just may succeed."

He already has.
The west is in damage control looking for an off ramp while trying to save face.

The sanctions failed.
The overthrow failed.
The military campaign failed.
The attempts to threaten and bully other countries to stand against him and poison the relationship with Russia failed.

Germany is in the process of being deindustrialised and Europe will never again have the prosperity it had, which resulted from cheap Russian gas.
European countries are in recession.
France has gotten the worst protests I've ever seen, when it had been a part of trying to cause in Russia.
It's previous colonial states in West Africa want nothing more to do with them, and want to rebuild a relationship with Russia.
NATO countries are divided, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and Poland want to extend the war, where France and Germany want an end to it.
The United States credit rating has been downgraded due to deficit spending and more countries are standing up to the West and taking steps to abandon the dollar, and Russia's economic outlook for this year to be revised upwards.
Their recent counter offensive failed spectacularly, and there is no real feasible prospect of continuing the war, as Ukraine troop numbers start to dwindle as does their artillery shells and ammunition.

The Ukrainian people have been backstabbed by the west.
Boris Johnson talked Zelensky into continuing the war when he was in peace negotiations last March / April (barely 5 weeks after the start of the conflict) promising they would be there as long as it takes, but it was a promise they couldn't keep because they don't have the military production capacity to meet Ukraines needs.

Ukraine keeps sending it's military to certain death because it has no other options.

The whole thing is a complete mess and a loss for the West who themselves started it with overthrowing the previous democratically elected government.

Bidens in hot water, he knows not only his goose is cooked and that he's under investigation, but the whole damn corrupt Washington cartel are in hot water too if Trump wins, and RFK Jr is looking good as a democratic contender, and Biden is too senile to be able to successfully debate either of them.

It a colossal failure for the West.
Countries will be loathe to trust the Western monetary system after they froze Russias foreign currency, and blew up Germanys (Nordstream) gas pipeline (lifeline), leaving Germans paying a fortune for gas and drastically increasing Germans cost of living and the nations and indeed the EU's financial situation.
France has lost access to it's Uranium resource in Niger.

The West have lost the war.
The United States has shown it can't defend it's allies, even with NATO.

And Russians are sitting on top of all the oil, gas, grain, fertilizer, precious metals etc they will ever need and have decoupled from the West and weathered the storm.

Even Hungary is refusing to support Swedens aim to join NATO and it may yet fail in the Turkish parliament.

All told the west has embarked on this 'Get Putin' Ukrainian adventure and been dealt a serious blow in return.
Billions lost, and nothing to show for it.

BRICS nation have 30+ countries lining up to join, and the block has already surpassed the G7 on GDP.

They have even dropped articles in Politico about what might happen if Zelensky is assasinated by Russia, when it's the west themselves thinking about getting rid of him and blaming it on Russia after all their plans have gone pear-shaped.

If you think the situation looks bad for Putin and Russia and good for the collective west, then you're not paying attention to the events as they unfold.

"The only evidence provided to support the claim that police officers were acting as provocateurs was this link"

The FBI doesn't simply investigate crimes.
It's real specialty is setting people up, encouraging them to commit crimes undercover and then busting them for it like entrapment, after it encouraged them to commit the crime in the first place.

This video reminded me what they do.

FBI Built Fake Bombs To Place Outside NYC Synagogues!
http://youtu.be/K5Nwt1wU-QQ

Ukraine turning into a Grave Yard w/Col Douglas Macgregor
http://www.youtube.com/live/9vf7Tt5KVKc?feature=share

I will keep on repeating:

There is no rational response to what you're
saying.

Dear Armchair Critic,

You are still quoting as fact something the article your provided as justification only has a dead link to back it up.

When you choose to ignore things like this that your credibility gaps become laughable.

The ol bait and switch is tiresome.

"You are still quoting as fact something the article your provided as justification only has a dead link to back it up."

Gaining or maintaining credibility is an inconsequential issue when the facts are right anyway.
Trump never told protesters to storm the Capitol building, he told them to be peaceful, but DC is extremely Democrat leaning, (Blue city) and undercover police themselves encouraged protesters to enter.

That means Trumps not guilty, but undercover police provocateurs most certainly are.
It's a willful attempt to make Trump guilty of something he didn't do.
And if you take this in a bigger context, that prior to the election there were whistleblowers from Burisma that made accusations of Bidens corruption, including providing audio, and that the FBI had in their possession the Hunter Biden laptop which had information about Hunters business dealings and confirmed the whistleblowers story, as well as the fact that they censored the story on social media in an attempt to manipulate the election, then you have a corrupt FBI that sought to remove Trump from office and stitch him up for something he wasn't actually guilty of.

These are the facts, whether you believe them or not.

- Don't listen to what I'm saying if you choose, it makes no difference.

Same goes for Foxy,
Believe what you want, it makes no difference.
- The large proportion of those facts are easily verifiable through mainstream media, the rest you can find out if you look hard enough.

How you feel about it or whether you believe these things matters not.

The REAL REASON For Trump’s Latest Indictment!
http://youtu.be/FPkT0ibUIuc

Russia becomes Europe’s biggest economy
http://www.rt.com/business/580817-russia-europe-biggest-economy/

"The country’s GDP in PPP terms is outperforming that of Germany, according to World Economics"

- Maybe this is why the EU banned RT?
With the grain deal off, Europes food prices will rise sharply.
Oil production cuts from OPEC+ will increase fuel costs.
The German people will be hating the US by the coming winter without sufficient gas supplies.
Germans are starting to show significant opposition towards the war in Ukraine.

AfD: German voters shift toward far right
http://www.dw.com/en/afd-german-voters-shift-toward-far-right/a-66439711

Wonder how long it will be till European politicians start to get the boot, probably won't be too long.
Germany is the financial powerhouse of the European Union.
Europe's headed down the gurgler.

They'll all be gone, and Putin will still remain.

Putin will still remain?

Victory makes a Soviet ruler invulnerable, almost sacred.
Defeat places a Soviet ruler in danger from his closest
courtiers, ministers and generals.

When Soviet leaders fall, nemesis usually comes from those
closest.

"When you walk down the corridors," mused Stalin, "You never
know when it's going to come."

Putin's obsession with his own safety is not paranoia. He
has every reason to be vigilant.

Donald Trump's charges continue to get even more bizarre:

http://bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-61084161

How it will all end? - is hard to predict.

Hi Foxy,

Its obvious Trump is a low life scum bucket who deserves to spend time in jail. Will he? maybe, maybe not. Interesting how the "virtuous" who claim to uphold "moral Christian values" rally to support this grub.

Dear Paul1405,

The reverence toward Trump has biblical sanction. King David put Uriah in the heat of battle to get knocked off so he could screw his wife. King David was a low life scum bucket no better than Trump. However, he is revered. "Virtuous" who claim to uphold "moral religious values" have a tradition of supporting grubs.

Hi David,

I can't disagree with that.

I looked up St Donald, and yes there was a St. Donald of Ogilvy.

I also got this meeasge from the same mob;

Hi readers, it seems you use Catholic Online a lot; that's great! It's a little awkward to ask, but we need your help. If you have already donated, we sincerely thank you. We're not salespeople, but we depend on donations averaging $14.76 and fewer than 1% of readers give. If you donate just $5.00, the price of your coffee, Catholic Online School could keep thriving.

"WE ARE NOT SALES PEOPLE"; really but on the same page we have;

4 1/2" St. Anthony Pewter Statue on Base was $71.95 now $61.16 + P&H. SAVE 15% whilst saving yourself, me thinks I'll order half a dozen, just in case.

What I don't understand is the support that this grub (Trump)
is getting from so many Americans. Where the heck does this
come from?

Dear Foxy,

Many Americans regard the separation of religion and state as a restriction on their freedom. They want to proselytize and push their religion with little or no restriction. The Supreme Court justices that Trump has appointed would tear down the separation as would the Southern Baptist Convention. The latter is the main source of dedicated Trump supporters. They ignore the fact that the first unit of government any place in the world to have an explicit separation of church and state was the Rhode Island colony presided over by the Baptist minister who I admire, Roger Williams.

Dear David,

Thank you for the information.

All this hatred that's being spread by supposedly
"religious" people is disturbing, especially in
these so called "modern" times. Yet when we look at history
it becomes clearer that it was always so.

Our local parish priest was so against same-sex marriage.
He visited a local club where members of the LGBTQ community
were handing out pamphlets. The priest grabbed those pamphlets
and tried to throw them in a bin. Until someone intervened
and told him that they had hired the hall and were entitled
to give out the pamphlets. The priest was asked to leave.

So much for tolerance, kindness, respect, and understanding.

Some people believe in the things they do in such a manner that they think that the ends justifies the means.
In my opinion this is where the danger in all 'beliefs' lies.

I think that regardless of what one does and doesn't believe;
- There's still a right and wrong way to go about things.