Three years ago I wrote my first post here calling into question the Covid lockdowns which were then raging throughout Australia. At the time, while it was clear to some that the lockdowns were a denial of science and sense and a massive detriment to the economic wellbeing of the nation, most were buying the governments’ and medical bureaucracy’s memes about needing to lockdown to ‘stop the spread’. Each day, news talking heads breathlessly told us the latest toll of Covid deaths and people knew the tables of death rates per state and nation better than they knew the competition tables of their favourite sports.

Even then, it was clear that differing methods of calculating and assessing what was a Covid death meant that the comparisons were largely useless. But still they were made and treated as though they had mythical meaning. Now three years down the track, the data is being assembled – and it shows how disastrously wrong the lockdown, and later, the vaccine mania was.

We now know that the locking people within their homes was exactly the wrong policy. Researchers struggle to find examples of people died as a result of outdoor exposure to the virus. There are now any number of papers and analyses that show that lockdowns were a mess.

Equally persuasive is the growing knowledge of excess deaths. While comparing deaths assigned to the virus is questionable due to differing definitions, ‘excess deaths’ statistics isn’t. And what do the data show? Well, in Australia excess deaths rates are the highest since WW2. While about half of those excess are Covid deaths, the rest are largely unexplained to date. But even at the time of the lockdowns people were warning of the problems of missed medical appointments, missed diagnoses, and delayed treatments.

Tellingly, international numbers are now becoming available. Sweden, long derided for not locking down, is now seen to have the lowest excess death rate in Europe and indeed the world. Swedish excess deaths per 100000 in the Covid era is much less than Australia

We have also learned, once the hysteria died down that many of the measures put in place were either useless or just plain wrong.
For example, it is now clear that the mask mandates were completely useless and possibly disadvantageous. Study after study shows that the masks made no difference and that the decisions to enforce masking were based on bad or even no data. But governments used their policing power to enforce a policy on a population too terrified by the false claims to resist.

We also now know that the lockdowns were a terrible policy for children. While it is clear now, as it should have been then, that the virus posed virtually no risk to those under 30, kids were still locked out their schools and cut off from social interaction with their friends and peers. There are now studies from many parts of the world, including Australia, that show increases in child self-harm and suicide attempts. One Australian study shows a massive increase in the admissions of children and adolescents with deliberate self-harm to intensive care during the covid era. Australian data isn’t there yet, but data from the US shows a measurable decline in education outcomes for the kids who were deprived of weeks and months of learning.

We now know that the authorities straight-up lied about the vaccines. They asserted to the public that the vaccine was necessary to stop the transmission of the virus while knowing that it did no such thing and was never intended to. We were told that we needed to vaccinate for the good of those around us – loved ones etc. But the vaccines were never tested to see if they stopped transmission and recent revelations show that an injected vaccine by definition can’t stop the transmission of the virus.

Additionally, information continues to grow that the vaccine can sometimes create health problems rather than solve them

When our politicians and media kept saying it's a disease of the vaccinated. My mind wondered how they knew that. Were they going into hospitals, collecting data and doing studies to back up their assertion it was a disease of the unvaccinated.

If so, they should have had long ongoing lists with headings like these:-

The vaccinated. The Unvaccinated. Covid events.

I heard and saw nothing of any study like this being done.
I began to doubt the truth of what they were saying.

I started asking this online,where was the simple comparison study
confirming what they kept saying?

Recently Phizer was asked by the European Union Parliament to show such a study. They couldn't produce any such study.Because they had never done one. The CEO of Phizer never turned up, and a couple of
Women on the Phizer marketing staff,who were there ,said they had never seen any such study.

This means everything Phizer claimed about the protection provided to the vaccinated and not the unvaccinated has no long-term substantial
data study to back it up. No such comparison study was ever provided to be peer reviewed by public experts.

In fact out in the community it seems that the vaccinated get Covid more than the unvaccinated. Plus the vaccinated get all the blood clots, and heart problems as well.

Without that comparison study, I don't believe that any of the claims Phizer made about the efficacy of the vaccines had much truth to them, it was just marketing, as Phizer and Investors, (probably a lot of politician investor as well) had one aim, to push the Vaccines in a
marketing campaign that Woolworths and other big merchandise Sellers would have admired. It was pure greed.

The tax payers paid for all the vaccines and the
Big Pharma,Elite investors and political investors made millions and billions.

My above post should have read,v"'disease of the unvaccinated"sorry.

Economically the lockdowns were a disaster. While this, of course, was known from the outset, governments painted themselves into a corner and the only way out was massive spending.

There are now efforts to try to blame the current economic woes on so-called Putin’s War, but any examination of the data shows that inflationary pressures preceded the Ukrainian invasion. Gigantic sums of money were injected into the system in a fiscal stimulus that was and is unprecedented. New theories had said that such spending was not a problem while traditional economics predicted inflation. Traditional economic theory won. Governments throughout the advanced world are now massively in debt. As inflation rages due to the stimulus spending, authorities have only monetary tools to fight it. In the past, inflation could be combatted by reducing government spending but this is now so far out of the realms of possibilities that it isn’t even considered. So the only tool is interest rates.

While the lockdowns caused the closure of innumerable small to medium businesses, larger organisations, especially Big Pharma, raked in the profits. Inflation is always bad for the middle classes and this time is no different. The whole mess has been called the greatest transfer of wealth from the middle class to the elites in history, and that is barely an exaggeration. This and the next generation will pay for the lockdown mania in higher interest costs and lower growth, along with lower living standards than would otherwise have applied.

In Australia, this fiscal vandalism was perpetrated by a Liberal government. The Liberal claims of greater financial responsibility and fiscal rectitude have been shattered for at least a generation although it remains possible that their opponents might yet outdo them.

One of the takeaways from the lockdown era is the evidence it provided as to how quickly and easily populations will surrendered their freedoms and rights if sufficiently frightened. Not only did the masses meekly adhere to the mask mandates and the vaccine mandates and to be locked in their homes, out of their businesses, separated from family and friends. Not only all that, but they begged the government for more.

When some brave souls stood against the government they were abandoned by the masses. The Victorian government turned the police on the dissidents to the point where they openly used firearms against the protestors. That government was awarded at the polls. People were forced to take the unproven vaccines on pain of being locked out of society and losing their ability to earn a living. We even had demands, some even on these pages, that the vaccine reluctant be forcibly injected, such was the illiberal terror that infected the population.

We know now that much of this fear of the virus was misplaced but deliberately fanned. The Twitter Files have shown that the authorities were censoring not only contentious views but also factual data might have caused vaccine hesitancy.

The lockdown era and its aftermath will affect our lives and those of our kids for decades to come. As such it will be studied and debated equally as long as people try to fathom how society unravelled so easily and how the authorities and authoritarians took advantage of it to increase their wealth and power. More studies are yet to come as the true effects of the vaccines are examined. More and better data will continue to flow as to financial and health effects of lockdowns.

If allowed, historians will also study how opinion was suppressed. We will need to understand how things like the “Great Barrington Declaration “, which in the end has been shown to be correct in all material aspects, was suppressed and its authors effective excommunicated.

Work will continue to try to understand the original of the virus, but that will likely never be resolved.

Lies, lies and more lies from the political class and the expertocracy. And they are still at it. Only a royal commission and legal action is acceptable now.

And, these very same totalitarians will do the same thing with climate change if we allow them to get away with it as we did with Covid. And keep an eye on THE WEF and the Great Reset. Politicians in the West are definitely influenced by it NOW. It's not just some airy-fairy bunch of nutters to be laughed at.

Knowing what we know now, people would be very foolish to trust governments ever again. Albanese, Dutton, all the others odds and sods - none of them can any longer be trusted with democracy.

"In COVID-world, where democratic politics have morphed seamlessly into psyops and propaganda, one is tempted to believe that our politicians would do literally anything to maintain or increase their power, and conceal their real intentions and motives in the process".

I found this amongst my stuff this morning. I cannot attribute it, but who ever wrote it is right, in my opinion.

Well it has finally happened, according to the home test kits, I've caught Covid. No jab zone here, but I have been taking Zinc, D & Quercertin to boost my immune system. Felt dreadful Friday morning, severe headache, aching all over, & so week I could hardly stand up out of a chair. No congestion or breathing problems, & no loss of smell or taste, but really sick.

Got out one of the Covid home test kits, the result, positive.

Next out one of the Ziverdo Kits I got from India, no thanks to our government in bed with the pharmaceutical industry. Took the Ivermectin & Doxycycline tablets, but not the zinc, as I am already taking a zinc supplement to help digest the D.

Slept most of the rest of Friday & Saturday, but was well enough to water the garden by Sunday. Still feeling a bit weak this morning, but otherwise OK. I tested myself again Sunday afternoon, & the result still positive.

So have I really had Covid, or are the home test kits as useless as the jab? Who knows but I am very glad I went through the hassle of getting my Ivermectin & Ziverdo kits from India.

"The evidence that the virus was created for the vaccine, and not the reverse, is mounting day by day". The TGA , knew that the vaccines didn't work, but "still they continue with the vaccine rollouts and the vaccine mandates". (https://politicom.com.au/author/paul-collits/)

There are a lot of like-minded fellows here, all patting each other on the back.
But are they right?
We were at war with a new virus.
We knew about the spanish flu of a century ago.
So authorities did the best they could.
I reject the idea that they were 'conniving' or deliberately trying to mislead the people.
If they made mistakes, that is to be expected.
Whether or not a different approach would have been better is now conjecture.
I think that good men did the best they could, and we should acknowledge that.
And before anyone says anything, 'men' in this sense means humans, not necessarily male.

Sorry Ipso Fatso, I can only wonder how one so naive can survive in todays world. Again sorry, but the tern useful idiot does spring to mind.

IP

You might not reject it if you did a bit more reading. I recommend one of the more recent books on the subject, 'The Great Reset' by Marc Morano. There are many others, and loads of material that you won't find in the MSM. Bill Gates and other multi-billionaires, and Big Pharma, have made squillions out of a virus which was actually one of the milder ones to crop up over the last 2,000 years.

My posts are not exactly popular reading, but I - and others - have provided alternative views, and proof, from well respected scientists and commentators in the past. Some people just don't want to know. But, I don't think you are in that category so, dig deeper is my advice to you.

Collits also says that the slow pace of the NSW election count because of worker shortages is due to the AEC's insistence that all workers have to be double vaccinated against Covid.

All this nonsense when even California, the most Leftist totalitarian state in the US, doesn't have a mandate for masks or vaccines in its HEALTH areas anymore.

Thought mhaze would be quicker off the mark regurgitating the Australian's opinion piece but he finally got around to it.

http://www-theaustralian-com-au.cdn.ampproject.org/c/s/www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/australia-recorded-relatively-more-excess-deaths-during-the-covid19-pandemic-than-sweden/news-story/0fdf8df15b4ef00f3534e6ba9626e3b2?amp

But he is in a little bit of a bind as usual as to accept some of the statistics he is going to have to accept that Covid was more lethal than he has ever conceded in the past.

What he will of course not mention is that the article quotes WHO as saying:

"After three years, Sweden has experienced 23,777 deaths from or with Covid-19, compared with Australia’s 19,477, according to the World Health Organisation."

Sweden has just 2/5ths the population of Australia.

We did a bloody good job in this country in saving Australian lives through our Covid measures, lives that people like mhaze would have gleefully sacrificed due to a twisted ideology.

SR,

I didn't quote the article because I didn't read the article (I don't subscribe to the Oz). Is that toooooo complex for you to follow.

This is gunna amaze you but lots of places around the world write on these issues. Although you limit your sources to those places that are going to tell you what you want to hear, I don't. AFAIR, I first learned of the standout Swedish excess death numbers from a post by Lomborg back in early March.

As to the deaths, I think I've explained to you several times (I thought you understood...but alas) that comparing covid deaths between jurisdictions is fraught because of the differing methods of classification. That's why comparing excess deaths is a vastly better metric because there's only one way to classify dead. Still, comparing excess deaths delivers a result you'd prefer to ignore, so I understand why you want to talk about something other than that. Standard SR there.

As to the timing of my post, I wrote it a coupla weeks back but released it to coincide with the anniversary of my original post on the questions around lockdown.

Lomborg?

Found him. It seems he is quoting from the same rightwing Swedish newspaper Svenska Dagbladet (not that biased at all) that the Australian and the Spectator used.

Funny, but it seems it is the only outlet which put Sweden at the bottom of the list for excess deaths over that period.

However you and your ilk have jumped aboard with your normal gay abandon.

Our World Data has both Denmark and Norway below Sweden. New Zealand is well below them all with a negative figure.

http://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?time=2023-01-01&facet=none&hideControls=true&Metric=Excess+mortality+%28%25%29&Interval=Cumulative&Relative+to+Population=true&Color+by+test+positivity=false&country=DNK~SWE~NOR~FIN~AUS~NZL

The Economist commissioned their own study estimating cumulative excess deaths per 100,000 people between January 1st 2020 and February 23rd 2023. They had Denmark at 117, Norway 148, Sweden 184 and Finland at 254.

So why is Finland higher. Simple, demographics old boy. 65 years and over make up 22.26% of the Finnish population but only 20.59% in Sweden.
http://www.indexmundi.com/factbook/compare/sweden.finland/demographics

Now how about you stop rolling out reams of unsubstantiated and unattributed posts and do your own work backing up what you are trying to claim.

Well actually SR, there are any numbers of places that look at these excess death data. While Sweden doesn't always end up at the extremities in such lists it most definitely generally ends up looking like their attitude to lockdowns was correct.

eg....

http://twitter.com/JamesMelville/status/1596815870676041729
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/was-sweden-right-about-covid-all-along/ar-AA18txYO

BTW, Lomborg's numbers were ultimately based on analysis from Statistics Sweden - their equivalent to the Australian Bureau of Statistics. As usual, you decree that data you don't like is delivered by people you don't like and is therefore wrong, an attitude that explains while you misunderstand so much.

Why all the concentration on Sweden. Why no concern over the largely unexplained increase in excess deaths in Australia.... http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/report-shows-australias-excess-mortality-rate-has-risen-to-levels-not-seen-since-world-war-ii/news-story/2f86a5483b9ae8363fc80082ae95ba3d

But excess deaths is just one aspect to all this issue over lockdowns and the general response to the so-called pandemic. What about the increase in adolescent self-harm and suicide attempts?...
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpsy/article/PIIS2215-0366(23)00036-6/fulltext
(You'll have to copy/paste the link because the brackets always screw up the URL)

Corrigan et al (2022).... http://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35544133/

What? They didn't die therefore don't count?
What about the businesses destroyed and livelihoods upended?

Death is an important part of the issue but not the only part. But as usual you want to reduce complex subjects to one number (which you usually misunderstand) and argue piffle around that one matrix

Dear mhaze,

You write: “While Sweden doesn't always end up at the extremities in such lists it most definitely generally ends up looking like their attitude to lockdowns was correct.”

No it doesn't. They have had way more Covid deaths per capita than Australia and when matched against other Scandinavian countries and taking in to account demographics the overall excess death rate isn't anything to write home about.

And look at you. The first link was some patched up graph for some bloke on twitter, the second a link to the Telegraph, then there was this gem: “Why no concern over the largely unexplained increase in excess deaths in Australia”.

Largely unexplained? Mate it tells you in the article that well over half were caused by COVID! I know you continue to refer to it as a “so called pandemic” as you just have but it takes a determinedly ignorant person to ignore the toll it continues to take on Australian's lives.

And yes there were some downsides to the lockdowns but the positives include an internal migration which has revitalised country towns in this country and far better work life balances for millions of Australians.

So after explaining over and over why epidemiologists and statisticians prefer to use excess death numbers rather than covid death numbers to compare nations and jurisdictions (the reason being there is no standardisation in determining what is a covid death), SR goes right back to tallking about covid death numbers. Why? Because they're the only thing that can be manipulated enough to tell the story he wants to hear, and therefore the only thing he wants to talk about. So back to talking about covid deaths so as to ignore and pretend not to see the massive increase in overall deaths in Australia as a result of the lockdowns. Standard SR there.

But to be fair I do understand one of SR's points. While it is true that the lockdowns caused a massive increase in overall deaths, a massive increase in youth self-harm and suicide attempts, wrought havoc on the economy for decades to come, saw businesses destroyed and livelihoods unravelled, had freedoms withdrawn and the unwanted experience of police firing on peaceful protestors....at least we now have more "internal migration which has revitalised country towns", so alls well that ends well.

Sheesh.

The only way to gain closure on the Covid debacle and perhaps bring its perpetrators to justice, is to have a Royal Commission - not argue with idiots like SteeleRedux who, in his thankfully few appearances, never presents an opinion of his own, but merely attacks the opinions of others. A totally useless individual.

Dear mhaze,

You really are a sketchy person when you get challenge on posting rubbish.

My first post to you was entirely about excess deaths so why imply I'm haven't addressed it. I have.

The increase in excess deaths in Australia came after the lockdowns, not during it so why claim otherwise.

They didn't cause an increase in suicides as evidenced by the Victorian Coroner's reports which showed they instead went down during the lockdowns. They didn't cause an increase in business failures instead the rate slowed dramatically due to government support. I could go on.

It really is just lie after unsubstantiated lie from you isn't it. Do you think that by repeating these often bizarre untruths they will eventually become accepted? It is never going to happen.

Give it a rest.

Interesting, & indicative of them dodging the point, not a single response to my story of the effectiveness of Ivermectin, zinc & a simple antibiotic stopping my Covid infection in 52 hours for less than $20.

SR & his mates hate to face proof of their stupidity, so run for cover.

SR wrote: "The increase in excess deaths in Australia came after the lockdowns, not during it so why claim otherwise."

Clearly this is too hard for SR to follow. But let's try again. When the lockdowns were being enforced the naysayers who opposed those lockdowns pointed out that the isolation of individuals along with the then known fact that medical appointments were being missed, diagnoses were being missed, new cancers and heart problems were being missed because people were cut off from the medical services that would address those medical problems. Additionally, suicide experts were pointing out that adverse events like the lockdowns would still be flowing through the system 5 years hence.

So all this was predicted and the lockdown fetishists ignored it. Then post-lockdown, the predictions came true. A decline in medical support during lockdown did indeed lead to more deaths post-lockdown.

It takes a special type of cluelessness to think that all adverse affects related to the lockdowns stopped the moment the lockdowns were lifted. And then we have SR.

"They didn't cause an increase in suicides .."

Well I did provide you with a link to one of several papers that looked at the data rather than the hype and found differently.

Lockdowns don't work....

http://beyondstones.wordpress.com/about/

Dear mhaze,

Mate you are continuing to make this crap up quite shamelessly.

Suicide rates went down in Victoria during the pandemic. They did increase in the latter half of 2022 but mainly in the 65 plus age group and particularly among women. Those homeless who were housed and taken care of during the pandemic are now thrust only the streets and the most vulnerable cohort, women over 65 are copping it the worse. I don't think this is just coincidental.

As to cancer diagnosis numbers there was no obvious dip in Australia over the pandemic period.
http://viz.aihw.gov.au/t/Public/views/Cancer_Figure1_AH22_23062022/Figure?%3Aembed_code_version=3&%3Aembed=y&%3AloadOrderID=0&%3Adisplay_spinner=no&%3AshowAppBanner=false&%3Adisplay_count=n&%3AshowVizHome=n&%3Aorigin=viz_share_link

Virtually everything you raise has little of no basis in truth but is either something you have scrapped off a bunch of right-wing nut job sites or you have made up yourself.

Go find another hobby.

SR writes in regards to youth self-harm: "Mate you are continuing to make this crap up quite shamelessly."

Well what I wrote was derived from several actual research papers which used rooly-trooly data. Perhaps that's why it went over your head, data seems to affect you that way. Oh and since I was talking about the effect on adolescents, SR obvious thinks that includes 65 yr old women. There's that problem with numbers again.

"It takes a special type of cluelessness to think that all adverse affects related to the lockdowns stopped the moment the lockdowns were lifted. And then we have SR.