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AC,

So you are saying that the Ukrainians are going to send someone deep into Russia to assassinate an idiot troll with no military value whatsoever? That the guy was a complete prick doesn't mean that he has any real value.
Posted by shadowminister, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 5:58:29 PM
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Hi shadowminister,

"So you are saying that the Ukrainians are going to send someone deep into Russia to assassinate an idiot troll with no military value whatsoever?"

- Of course they are, they've been waging war against any journalist that reports things from the Russian perspective.
Have you not heard of Myrotvorets, what about Daria Dugin?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myrotvorets

The corporate medias job is to mislead, misinform or persuade the general public, and you fall for it every time.
- It really surprises me that you still haven't figured this out.

Why would Russians kill Vladlen Tatarsky, a Pro-Russian blogger and close friend of Yevgeny Prigozhin, head of Wagner PMC in a cafe Prigozhin once owned?

You should watch a couple of minutes of this, it describes your own attitude, an unwavering belief that Russia will lose and it also talks about the National Endowment for Democracy as being a 'coloured revolution headquarters' things I've shared with all of you for a long time, but you seem to think everything is 'grassroots'.

http://www.youtube.com/live/MxjSfIjicjg?feature=share&t=996
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 6 April 2023 8:49:37 AM
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AC,

Russia has imprisoned every dissenting journalist it can get its hands on. There is also an epidemic of oligarchs and opposition politicians falling out of windows, getting riddled with bullets poisoned etc all within Russia. Also, there is zero evidence of Ukraine assassinating journalists in either case in either case or anywhere else.

Finally calling Vladlen Tatarsky is a bit of a stretch as he was essentially employed by the government as a mouthpiece for its propaganda.

Russia is losing this war.
Posted by shadowminister, Thursday, 6 April 2023 11:58:29 AM
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Hi AC,

The "cctv" footage of the suspect could have been a hand held camera. The footage was released by Russian police.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uJHt39y69w

And Putin only knows what is happening via his advisors and Russian television.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-04-05/war-criminal-elite-putin-security-officer-defects-karakulov/102188218
Posted by Fester, Thursday, 6 April 2023 12:14:20 PM
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"Russia has imprisoned every dissenting journalist it can get its hands on."

- Well that's what they get for working in their capacity equal to being / or actually being agents of the west trying to topple the Russian government.
What did they think was going to happen for disloyalty during a time of war against them by the West, and if you disagree go read 'Extending Russia' by RAND corporation again.

"There is also an epidemic of oligarchs and opposition politicians falling out of windows, getting riddled with bullets poisoned etc all within Russia."

Some may have been working with the West, and walked out the window or stepped in front of a truck or been poisoned in typical soviet fashion, others might have been US targets to make Russia look bad. None of us know the truth, but rest assured the west is actively trying to undermine the Russian government, the exact thing the West complains about and accuses others of doing to it's own government.
- Pot calling kettle black.

FFS don't pay any attention to the woman who admitted bringing the staute into the cafe, who was an activist against the Russian government, and whose husband was close to the Alexei Navalny, well known opposition figure supportive to the west and currently impassioned in Russia.

"The 'cctv' footage of the suspect could have been a hand held camera. The footage was released by Russian police."
- Maybe it was Tatarsky's security team. He did have one there, I wouldn't be surprised if they were videoing everyone that came in and out. The security team advised him to leave the statue at the door but some woman (not the one who delivered it) wanted to bignote and picked it up and took it to him.

As for the ABC article Fester, why would I believe anything a traitor says?
Looks like his defection is at least 6 months old.
Conscientious objector, or compromised by the west?
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 6 April 2023 1:46:02 PM
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Hi AC,

If Trepova did get the bomb delivered, then it's a job well done. If the video was taken by Tatarsky's security then they seem very incompetent. Also, what sort of person was Tatarsky if this attributed comment was accurate: "We will defeat everyone, we will kill everyone, we will rob everyone as necessary. Just as we like it.". Good riddance to a bad rubbish I think, and what an incredibly brave person Daria Trepova is to oppose Russia's gangsta regime, although I for one am glad to be living on the other side of the world.
Posted by Fester, Thursday, 6 April 2023 5:20:15 PM
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