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A Million Or More Refugees From Ukraine And China

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SM,

"I have hundreds of videos of Russian soldiers being killed by artillery, drones, mines, snipers etc." Do you swap em' with the like minded?

Hummmmm....Whatever turns you on! Are they rated MA? I assume so, not much on telly these day? Then you can use em' for entertainment when the little grand-kiddies pop in.
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 19 March 2023 1:24:43 PM
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Hey mhaze,
"See my post on this thread dated Sunday, 12 March 2023 11:51:20 AM. I'm not surprised that you missed the link since you really aren't interested in anything that doesn't confirm your beliefs."
- Ah-yeah. Same one I was looking at, only I didn't use your link, sorry.

"Well that looks like a strange way to admit that the thing you've been confidently asserting as unassailable fact for weeks is indeed total BS, but alas...."
- Yeah fair enough, I got something wrong, but it doesn't necessarily change my argument, forcing people to only use the Ukrainian language in government institutions in no different to banning Russian, what many citizens in the Russian-speaking eastern part of the country use.

"Just to make the point again, AC based his belief that Ukraine had banned the Russian language on a statement from Russian foreign minister Lavrov who AC asserted wouldn't lie. Now that he knows Lavrov lied, will AC now take the words emanating from the Kremlin with a grain of salt? Yeah, sure! Oh look up there, a flock of pigs flying by."
- I don't necessarily think Lavrov has lied, there has been a ban on the Russian language in the country, only not necessarily in public.
And that doesn't give us the full story of what happened in 2014, Ukrainian natiionalists may or may not have proposed harsher language laws at that time, and wound them back to meet regulations relating to joining the EU.
Ultimately the purpose of these laws is to largely reduce the usage of the Russian language, otherwise there would have been no reason to write them in the first place.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 19 March 2023 2:51:03 PM
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"Rescuing children? What a disgusting lie. Up to 16000 children have been torn from their families and forcibly kidnapped and taken to Russia."

Yes shadowminister, you've figured it all out.
The whole entire war has just been a ruse.
The real purpose of the tanks and missiles and people shooting each other was purely for the purpose of kidnapping kids.

"If there was any pretence of protection their families would have been taken with them."
- Their families are probably dead.
The whole narrative is just that, a story.
Do you know why I know that?
The link below where they go to one of the places unannounced where people are given shelter.
They don't force them into slave labour, they don't take their passports, they're given food, a bed, a roof over their head, and probably schooling too if they're a child of school age.
They can stay as long as they want and leave when they want.
If kids are given to famililes to take care of it's just in the interests of the child, of course they're going to hold a Russian viewpoint of things IN RUSSIA.
There's nothing nefarious about it.

It's a nothingburger so fools like you can jump up and down screaming its a somethingburger.

I took a LIBERAL, ANTI WAR Protester to see the truth in Donbass, and THIS Happened!
http://youtu.be/0OysQ7yQl_o?t=2115

"Instead, these kids are either given to Russian parents or in schools where they are indoctrinated."

You seem to forget the places they were taken from voted to join Russia before they were taken.

You can call it 'illegal annexation' but I call it 'the right to self determination', from people who were bombed for 8 years by a US puppet regime.

Ukraine willfully bombed kindergardens and hospitals in Donetsk, they're only using this kids as a means to bring on this ICC thing, [quoting from a twitter post here] "The point is to make it for Putin and Russia in every aspect of life hard to breath, so that the numbers of people willing to risk "something" grows."
Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 19 March 2023 3:30:35 PM
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They don't give a crap about the kids, maybe a few Ukraine government do because it's an angle to start something, but it's all about a means to 'Get Putin'

Obama came into office in 2008, the war in Iraq went on till 2011, there were hundreds of thousands of civillians killed, many women and kids, then there was a war in Libya, then Syria, and the Maidan in 2014 and the coup in Turkey in 2016, don't forget sending arms to Saudi Arabia to kill Yemeni's;
- and Obama got the Nobel peace prize you nitwit.

This isn't about 'standing up for kids' it's about 'Putin hysteria'.
- You might be that dumb to believe this is about the welfare of kids but don't expect me to be that dumb.
It's not my fault if you can't see the bigger picture here.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 19 March 2023 3:38:48 PM
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"You seem to forget the places they were taken from voted to join Russia before they were taken."

Rubbish. Utterly illegitimate referenda were held but to say that these places freely voted to join Russia is just another one of those things AC chooses to believe in defiance of the facts.
Posted by mhaze, Monday, 20 March 2023 4:17:32 AM
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AC

You are now lying outright. Most of the children were kidnapped before the phoney referendums. This is another version of ethnic cleansing.

The war criminal Putin will be held to account after his army and country are ruined.
Posted by shadowminister, Monday, 20 March 2023 4:27:45 AM
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