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A Million Or More Refugees From Ukraine And China

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The footage of the Su-27 and the US reaper drone clearly shows the Russian jet hit it, as suspected.

http://www.skynews.com.au/world-news/pentagon-shares-footage-of-the-alleged-moment-a-russian-fighter-jet-dumps-fuel-on-us-mq9-drone-before-they-collide/news-story/245e0556c1057ac5941810472361daef

- It's hard to say whether or not the drone changed it's course in any way moments prior to the collision though.

The US says it had the right to conduct 'routine operations' in international waters.

I myself think that whether it was in international waters or not, if it was doing reconnaissance and providing targeting data for the Ukrainians, which I think can be reasonable accepted, that it was a direct party to the conflict and a legitimate military target for Russia.

Also it was flying withing Russian ADIZ (Air defence Identification Zone) with it's transponder off, and take into account that these drones can be armed, then it most certainly was a direct party to the conflict and a military target.

Apparently, the most important part of the drone, apart from the physical drone itself was it's software.
If Russian's were able to get the software for the drone, they may be able to hack into and take control of all the US drones.
The US said it had deleted all of the onboard softward in the moments before it crashed into the Black Sea.

I heard that Russia had already retrived all of the drone parts but I take this claim with a grain of salt.

The US thinks it can do whatever it wants with full immunity.
They were acting as a direct party to the conflict, there's no immunity.

I also heard rumours that if Ukraine runs low on troops, that US may be considering putting boots on the ground as NATO forces, but Russia too, has not sent all of it's troops into combat yet.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 17 March 2023 11:23:01 AM
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Well we've made some progress with AC. We started off with him saying that the Ukrainians had banned the Russian language in their territory. AC has now learned that that piece of Russian propaganda was straight-up rubbish although there is zero chance he'll acknowledge it.

Many countries have formal rules around their nation tongue and require government business to be carried out in that tongue. Ukraine has done nothing out of the ordinary. Indeed Russia has that exact same rule which means that, according to AC, part of Russia's pretext for their imperialistic invasion is to punish Ukraine for doing exactly the same as Russia does. Double standards anyone? Still if these people didn't have double standards they'd have no standards at all. Indeed talking of double standards, Putin not so long ago, while trying to convince himself as much as anyone else, said the two languages were similar and merely had “regional language peculiarities”.

Of coarse the whole thing is a storm in a teacup. The two languages are so similar that a speaker of one can easily learn to carry on conversations in the other. It'd be like one of us moving to Glasgow and being forced to speak in the Scottish dialect
Posted by mhaze, Friday, 17 March 2023 11:57:53 AM
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The US drone was in international airspace, and the actions of Russian aircraft were videoed. There will be consequences.

The Russian language was never "banned" in Ukraine. The Ukrainian language was declared the official Language. There is an enormous difference.

Russia is losing this war.
Posted by shadowminister, Friday, 17 March 2023 12:00:13 PM
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You two are really are like 'dumb and dumber'.

"The US drone was in international airspace, and the actions of Russian aircraft were videoed. There will be consequences."
- I think you two are just begging to get WWIII started.

Doesn't matter the drone was engaged in an act of war by spying on Russian targets.

If that was a Russian drone flying in international waters off the Coast of America during a time of war collecting targeting information on sensitive US targets to give it to the Chinese so that they could kill Americans, you can bet both testicles the US would shoot it down.

C'mon Mr Ukrainian constitution language expert, did you go find the document and read the part where Ukrainian citizens are required to learn the Ukrainian language within 12 months?
- Or did you not actually read it?

Bakhmut will fall soon, it's only a matter of time and dead Ukrainians.
I hear Russians are running around right in front of them and there's nothing they can do except chuck rocks because they are completely out of ammo.
And Russia has fire control over all roads in and out.
- And they don't have enough troops to pull off a successful counteroffensive.
So much for Zelensky's big US Congress speech.

Go worship your hero, Stepan Bandera.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 17 March 2023 12:36:33 PM
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"did you go find the document and read the part where Ukrainian citizens are required to learn the Ukrainian language within 12 months?"

Did I find the document? Wow, your chutzpah is boundless. I FOUND it AND showed it to you. You were unaware of it prior to that. Wow!

No I didn't see any section that required citizens to learn Ukrainian. Just another thing you made up or misunderstood.

I also didn't see the part where Russian was banned. Because no such thing exists. That of coarse was your original assertion although you are trying very hard to forget that now.
Posted by mhaze, Friday, 17 March 2023 2:32:55 PM
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Well I'm not sure what document you were talking about or whether or not you even added a link to it, but this was the one I looked at.
You'll have to copy and paste the link as taking off the 's' in 'https' doesn't work for this translated page link.

THE LAW OF UKRAINE - On ensuring the functioning of the Ukrainian language as the state language

https://zakon-rada-gov-ua.translate.goog/laws/show/2704-19?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp#Text
Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 17 March 2023 3:48:31 PM
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