Foxy,

What does Ridsdale do with Pell's trial? I don't believe that this is in any way connected. I guess that since you have lost this debate you are just trying to muddy the waters.

How does this compensate for the 30 million people Stalin executed?

The percentage of sex crimes that are punished?

- 100%

Regardless of what human police and courts do or not, nobody can get away scot-free with their crime in the heavenly court.
Given this infallible justice, why that crude attempt at duplication?

Nobody can be raped or otherwise injured unless they deserved so because of something similar they did earlier in their life and/or in previous lifetimes. The best one can do in such circumstances is to thank God for finally settling their account and closing the matter. The middling approach is to forgive and get on with life. The worst they can do is to start a new cycle of violence and suffering by asking police to investigate and prosecute. Revenge can never brings closure and peace, only further anguish.

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Dear Ttbn,

«So, even Pell's dying is cause for more angst for "lots of people" who he never did a thing to»

That places him in the great company of Jesus Christ.
If his dying is a cause for so much angst - just imagine how much will his resurrection be?!

Foxy doesn't want the truth. She wants her delusions to continue. She ignores legitimate criticism, and retreats into an echo chamber with other people like her family (if she is telling the truth about their "ignoramus" comment). They could be the only people she has anything to do with, which goes a long way to explaining her ignorance and naivety about the real world.

Fancy involving your family in your obsessions. What a joyful household it must be.

Does anyone else do this? Go boo-hooing to the rellies when some 'nasty man' doesn't agree with Mumsy-wumsy.

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Apparently, Foxy’s closing remarks came a little too early this year. The enigma that was George Pell continues to haunt the minds of some.

Could it be that there was not just one, but two George Pells ? Was he George Pell, the monster, the masculine Lamia of Foxy, or George Pell, the staunch defender of conservative views and values, of ttbn and shadowminister ?

Have we all just witnessed another version of “The Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde” 137 years later ?

This is how the Encyclopedia Britannica explains it :

« In The Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, Stevenson suggested that the human propensities for good and evil are not necessarily present in equal measure. Hyde is quite a bit smaller than Jekyll, perhaps indicating that evil is only a small portion of Jekyll’s total personality but one that may express itself in forceful, violent ways. The story has long been interpreted as a representation of the Victorians’ bifurcated self. Jekyll is in every way a gentleman, but just beneath the surface lie baser desires that remain unspoken; he is the very personification of the dichotomy between outward gentility and inward lust. Stevenson’s tale took on new resonance two years after publication with the grisly murders perpetrated by Jack the Ripper in 1888 when the psychological phenomenon that Stevenson explored was invoked to explain a new and specifically urban form of sexual savagery »
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The question remains :

Who was the ex-choirboy (15 years old at the time) who accused Cardenal Pell 22 years later in 2018 of sexual penetration and why if it was not true ? Why would he lie ? What was his motive ?

The full hierarchy of courts in Australia, from the lowest to the highest, examined the case and arrived at the final renouncement of acquittal.

Could Pell have been the sort of stuff legends are made of ?

Time will tell.

In the meantime, RIP George - and, as Yuyutsu suggests, God will look into the matter ...

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Paul Collins, a Catholic Church Historian and former
Priest has said that Cardinal Pell's death was unlikely
to cause a huge shift in the Australian Catholic landscape
given that change had been gradually occurring since the
2012 Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to
Child Sexual Abuse.

We're told that:

"Pell's vision of the Church was a kind of fortress. A place
that had all the answers and Pell's kind of approach was
a pugilistic fairly boots and all kind of Catholicism, whereby
he certainly was not going to take secular society seriously."

The Church was above reproach. It was infallible. It could do
no wrong. Cardinal Pell was a divisive figure both in Australia
and internationally but his legacy has been tarnished by the
Royal Commission and Cardinal Pell's death will stir painful
memories for victims of sexual abuse.

Dear Banjo,

Your raising the the duality of human nature with the
example of Dr Jekyl and Mr Hyde, regarding Cardinal Pell is
interesting. The idea that every single human being has
good and evil within them. I think what is important is how
you behave and the decisions you make is what matters.

Clearly Mr Hyde did not repent or accept responsibility for
his evil crimes and ways. Neither did Cardinal Pell. However
Mr Hyde did commit suicide in the end. Something that
Cardinal Pell would never do.

History, will judge Cardinal Pell. We can only hope that the
Church will learn from its past mistakes and take action
to heal those still in pain.

I went to Church yesterday and prayed for the repose of
Cardinal Pell's soul and for the victims of sexual abuse.

Shortly before his death, Cardinal Pell wrote a document describing the planned 'Synod on Synodality' as a "toxic nightmare", "couched in neo-Marxist jargon", and "hostile to the apostolic tradition"; ignoring "such fundamental Christian tenets as belief in divine judgement, heaven and hell".

No wonder he was hated by the Vatican and disliked by the Pope. No wonder there are rumours that his death might not have been natural.